Notice: We request that you don't just set up a new account at this time if you are a previous user.
If you used to be one of our moderators, please feel free to reach out to Chris via the facebook Outerlimits4x4 group and he will get you set back up with access should he need you.
Recovery:If you cannot access your old email address and don't remember your password, please click here to log a change of email address so you can do a password reset.

Patrol Not Idling

General Tech Talk

Moderators: toaddog, TWISTY, V8Patrol, Moderators

Post Reply
Posts: 1949
Joined: Wed Oct 23, 2002 7:44 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Patrol Not Idling

Post by MKPatrolGuy »

As the subject says, on Sunday I finally got off my butt and adjusted the tappets on my Patrol (L28 Petrol), all was sweet after i did it (still slightly noisy but heaps better than before i started) but now it wont idle. It used to idle at about 800-900rpm (just a bit high, i know) but now it will sit at about 500rpm for about 30 seconds than just die. After that happens it is a bit of a pig to start, only cranking over slowly like the battery is flat, until i give the gas primer a squirt.

Any help greatly appreciated as it has me stuffed...
[size=100][url=http://www.vickrawlers.com/]VicKrawlers.com[/url]
[url=http://www.drfwdc.org.au/]Dandenong Ranges 4wd Club[/url][/size]
Posts: 952
Joined: Mon Oct 21, 2002 8:49 am
Location: KILL - SCYTH

Post by 80diesel4play »

Okay Dave,

Couple of solution present themselves here.

1. Did you readjust mixtures/timing once tappets adjusted?
2. Were the tappets overtightened? if so - motor life expectancy just got cut by 3/4.... :finger:
3. Did you set to factory spec's with feeler gauges? try to allow some slop for age/flogged factor. (i've been with you when you have driven...!)
4. Check your points gap as well - so set the timing, adjust mixture, check points gap and up the idle.

Its been a while since i played with a petrol motor but that is the best way to be sure of what you have done is correct.

good luck and don't blow your motor b4 Sunday! Or do the Chev Conversion NOW!!!! :D :D
80 Series Turbo - the Toy car...
XR6 Turbo - the work car...
XW wagon - the dogs car...
Posts: 1949
Joined: Wed Oct 23, 2002 7:44 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Post by MKPatrolGuy »

Paul,

1. No I didn't adjust the timing/mixture, I have NFI how to :?

2. & 3. Yes I used feeler gauges, and used the factory specs (Thanks Besty :D ). I don't think I over tightened them cos they still make a bit of noise, but I might pull the rocker cover off and check them again.

4. No points to adjust, Electronic ignition on mine now.

Spose i'll have to do a bit more work on it...oh well.

Thanks
[size=100][url=http://www.vickrawlers.com/]VicKrawlers.com[/url]
[url=http://www.drfwdc.org.au/]Dandenong Ranges 4wd Club[/url][/size]
Posts: 428
Joined: Tue Oct 22, 2002 8:26 am
Location: The Sovereign Nation of Sealabia

Post by 2car »

Reset your idle mixture. You were probably idling partially on the main jets before.
74 FJ40, 307, Hilux DBC, 35 Claws, welded rear.

'''_ ______
'/|_[_____]__
|?[_L/-\_|o=o|_
?:__;-?__-,==,_
()_)O()_)O== )_)
Posts: 1949
Joined: Wed Oct 23, 2002 7:44 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Post by MKPatrolGuy »

2car wrote:Reset your idle mixture. You were probably idling partially on the main jets before.


Okie dokie, I'll break out the Workshop manual then.
[size=100][url=http://www.vickrawlers.com/]VicKrawlers.com[/url]
[url=http://www.drfwdc.org.au/]Dandenong Ranges 4wd Club[/url][/size]
Posts: 952
Joined: Mon Oct 21, 2002 8:49 am
Location: KILL - SCYTH

Post by 80diesel4play »

I have a timing light - so you will need to re-adjust - then this will help.

Fuel mixture sounds wrong - I agree with 2car.

PM with you address - I might be able to drop off the timing light some time b4 friday bro!
80 Series Turbo - the Toy car...
XR6 Turbo - the work car...
XW wagon - the dogs car...
Posts: 1949
Joined: Wed Oct 23, 2002 7:44 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Post by MKPatrolGuy »

Thanks for the offer Paul, PM sent.
Thanks for the input 2car.
The car is doing this on Gas, haven't tried petrol yet, am I right in thinking the idle mixture won't affect the gas?
[size=100][url=http://www.vickrawlers.com/]VicKrawlers.com[/url]
[url=http://www.drfwdc.org.au/]Dandenong Ranges 4wd Club[/url][/size]
Posts: 952
Joined: Mon Oct 21, 2002 8:49 am
Location: KILL - SCYTH

Post by 80diesel4play »

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

on gas eh?? Mixture setting for gas is at the convertor.

Yip around to PRogas near your work bloke - tell him Rangie Ben sent you and get it tuned bro. Tuning it for petrol is pointless if you run gas 80% of the time.... Might be as simple as opening the gas mixture up and playing with ignition timing.... Also check to see if you have any loose lines that you may have dislodged during the process.
80 Series Turbo - the Toy car...
XR6 Turbo - the work car...
XW wagon - the dogs car...
Posts: 1949
Joined: Wed Oct 23, 2002 7:44 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Post by MKPatrolGuy »

No probs, Will do :D
[size=100][url=http://www.vickrawlers.com/]VicKrawlers.com[/url]
[url=http://www.drfwdc.org.au/]Dandenong Ranges 4wd Club[/url][/size]
Posts: 2979
Joined: Mon Feb 24, 2003 7:03 pm
Location: Melbourne

Post by robbie »

is that progas in huntingdale?
Posts: 124
Joined: Thu Jan 02, 2003 9:34 pm
Location: Tyers

Post by Pharb »

Is the gas lock of valve vacuum operated? Sounds like you might have a vacuum leak.
Peter
NJ Pajero 2.8TDI
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests