Outer Limits 4x4 Board

i put this here because i dont think this is a tech question..

im in the process of making a tube buggy for comps and general (limited) driving.....

ive been told to change the design a bit and try to get it regd...as i wont be able to drive it (offroad) anywhere without rego...


is this true.....i need to be able to drive it to find my and the buggys limits before i compete....

should i scrap this idea and try going the rego idea?

you wont be legally able to drive it off road anywhere, but if you wanted to im sure you could get away with it

I thought that some of the offroad parks could otherwise they couldnt do XRCC and stuff like that. But that's gonna limit you to only a couple of driving spots in QLD.

You could look at conditional rego, or complete Individual Vehicle Construction (much more expensive to engineer).

I would say the extra headaches and $$$ involved in making it registerable wouldn't be worth the gain. It's also quite likely you'll decrease the rigs capability by comprimising various areas to meet rego requirements. Beebee goes against this arguement but he's a freak so we won't worry about him !!
Just build it exactly how you want it and deal with the rest, you'll still be able to take it out, just have to be smart about it and if you get busted accept it could cost you the $1450 [+/-] fine for driving an unregistered/uninsured vehicle. Some rego'd vehicles cost much more than that in insurance fee's every year anyway !!

Good luck dude.

dont worry about rego i bet you still dont have that permit and havent been caught yet

I believe whatever your vehicle is, people will look upon at as a representation of your business, even if that's not intended.
So it really depends on the image you want to portray.
Winning comps has got to be good for business, but I personally am more often impressed by roadable vehicles that do well.. They also bring more of a cheer when they do well.
I vote try hard for rego, as a lot of comps require it, now, and your customers may not all be rock buggy drivers.
If its a no rego comp buggy, then portray the right image and trailer it.
Drove a rock buggy recently and I am still smiling
christover

christover1 wrote:Drove a rock buggy recently and I am still smiling

Hehe Thats coz you out drove its owner

I not sure.... But have been told that in QLD you can get a restricted rego and insurance. It won't let you drive on the road but it is good for off road applications. I do know some bike owners that have it, one of them has a 12 year old son who's bike has it in his name. I also remember reading something about it at blackduck a few months ago. Something about needing to have it before they let you ride or drive a un regestered bike/car there.

This "limited" insurance that you guys refer to is actually designed for hot rods. There are some restrictions.

1. MUST be a member of the National hot rod association.
2. MUST be a member of a Hot Rod Club
3. Only allowed to drive to & from dedicated Hot Rod meets
3b. or within 1km radius of home for "testing"
4. There is also a speed limit, but I forget it.

There is also also a rally rego, but again must be a CMAS licence holder, be part of rally club, restrictions on speed & distance.

You would certainly have a hard time trying to convince a copper that your tube buggy is either a hot rod or a rally car.

Recreational rego does not include hot rods

recreational rego & restricted rego are different.

IIRC Recreational rego is for moto-x bikes etc to ride leagally in state forests etc. At no stage does it allow you ride on the road.

Restricted rego allows you to drive on the road in a restricted/controlled maner.

A while ago, people where bringing in all sorts of imported cars, & finding that they couldn't get them certified/approved. (MA70 turbo, Pulsar GTi-R etc) so they put them on rally rego & got away with it for awhile. However massive fines etc if you are caught breaking the rules.

I am taking it that Chucky is talking about recreational rego which we have here. It doesn't allow you to drive on the road at all but allows you to legally drive/ride your toy on beaches aand state forests etc when the vehicle in question is obviously a recreational only vehicle but not suitable for a general road rego.

You may call it different in QLD or not have it at all but that is the plate I am talking about and would appear the suitable one.

There is no way that a tube buggy or moto-cross bike would be ellegible for a restricted road type rego.

sam (strangerover) went through all this if i recall when he first built the lockless. looking at things like speed-limiting it (25kph iirc), putting flashing lights on it etc. to see if he could get it, but i dont think it worked. hopefully he'll chime in here with more details

i've driven rod's buggy for about 2 minutes

interrested in the rec rego...

i do not want to drive this on the road....at all...

but i would like to be able to drive it off road sometimes without having to worrie all the time about getting busted...

ill chat to the transport mate today to see what i can do..

mud4b wrote:interrested in the rec rego...

i do not want to drive this on the road....at all...

but i would like to be able to drive it off road sometimes without having to worrie all the time about getting busted...

ill chat to the transport mate today to see what i can do..

Currently there realy isnt a class that covers a Tube Buggy in Rec/restricted Rego. But i am Currently talking with an engineer that may be able to sort this out. I will let you know. There are a couple of other vehicles that qualify for Rec/Restricted rego that come close but he just needs to do some more re-search. Recreational/Restricted Rego was originally designed for a vehicle that was never built to suit Rego so if you are using a factory frame that was designed to be registered this can not be done. Basicaly you can't buy an old rangie then modify it to the stage it can no longer be legaly registered and then put it on Rec/Restricted rego.
Oh yeah and i would class this as a Tech Discusion so it can go to General Tech.