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overheating problem

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 3:51 pm
by robbie
yo guys

got a small problem with my bundy (22R)

if I am idling somewhere for about 10 minutes, the b!tch gets hotter and hotter and starts heading towards the H.

if I am driving around town, the temp stays normal (between 1/4 and 1/2).

wondering what is wrong here?

- could it be my viscus hub (spelling?) not working properly?
- do I need thermos?
- is it a comon problem for bundies and hiluxes?

the reason I put this in general instead of toyota, is cause I know a lot of people who should be seeing this wont.. :?

thanks!

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 3:57 pm
by SaNTa
The temp staying normal when moving would sugest to me there is an airflow problem and has something to do with the setup you have to pull air thru when not moving.

A: I assume you have a shroud around the fan and idle speed is correct.
B: If so I would think maybe your fan is definatly in need of attention.
C: If the above are fine then I have NFI :)

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 3:59 pm
by robbie
no shroud around the fan

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 4:00 pm
by spazbot
from the pirate 4x4 newbies section

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Question:
“Why does my engine temp go all the way up to the red before it comes back down to the middle of the gauge after I start it up in the morning. It only does this when the engine is cold and once it warms up it seems to operate normally. Could it be as simple as a stuck thermostat?”

Answer:
(From Roger Brown’s Web Site)

“What happens on the 22R and 22RE engine, when the coolant goes through the heater core it gets cooled off enough that when it gets dumped back in on top of the t-stat it shuts it. Therefore the temperature in the engine continues to go up. The t-stat that I have mentioned has two valves in it, one at the regular temp. and one smaller on at a cooler temp. If the cool water shuts the big one, the smaller one stays open. All this happens because of the lack of a by-pass hose, which on other systems, keeps hot coolant running on the t-stat.”

You can get the two-stage thermostat mentioned above from your local Toyota Dealer.
Part Number: #90916-03070


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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 4:29 pm
by BUNDERA
Robbie,
has it always done this?
If so then get the shroud (mine has one and works great).

If not then check the viscous coupling and the thermostat.

I had to replace my thermostat a couple of months ago and it was cheap.

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 4:34 pm
by robbie
well, I just changed the thermostat.. it works fine and opens at the right temps.. when it gets upto 1/2, I can see it drop down to about 1/4 when driving

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 4:38 pm
by bj on roids
A stock motor with a stock cooling system, will be the most efficient you can get for your money. Toyota are not silly they had a shroud for a reason, i recommend making one, copy a stock item, or purchase one from a wrecker. Remember to haggle the a$s out of the wrecker, they like to ream HARD when n00bies are buying stuff. Fight back and pay minimum amounts.

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 4:45 pm
by robbie
a lot of places around here dont have bundy shit.. it was impossible for me to find a friggen LHF indicator lens assembly, had to go genuine toyo..

goddamn toyo parts :x

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 4:51 pm
by BUNDERA
where are u robbie?
melbourne? If so then ask bundy time for one?

Marks $wd Adaptors make some (but try to get one from a wrecker first).
Why doenst yours have one??


In fact any radaitor repair shop might have one that would go close to fitting. If they dont they would be able to make u one for sure.

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 4:52 pm
by robbie
I might try daniel (bundytime)...

so everyone is dead set on the shroud theory then?

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 5:00 pm
by BUNDERA
...No matter whether it works or not, adding a shroud will help cool the engine. But I believe this will be your problem.

Just get in contact with daniel and see if he has one in his rolled bundy.

Once again, why doesnt yours have one, did u take it off?


Nick

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 5:02 pm
by robbie
wasn't on the car when I got it nick :mad:

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 5:15 pm
by N*A*M
you need more blinker fluid, robbie. :finger:

careful when you speak to daniel. you might end up buying heaps of other stuff as well. :wink:

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 5:17 pm
by robbie
yeh, daniel is a keen salesman aint he?

he does work in spare parts, so it is kinda his thing :lol:

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 5:20 pm
by BUNDERA
hey robbie u angry at me? :evil:

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 5:21 pm
by robbie
nah man, never..

just pissed off that the farkin thing aint on the car

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 5:31 pm
by N*A*M
:Fade-color bundy drivers

keep the repressed sexual tension in check :finger:

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 5:32 pm
by robbie
hahaa Scanas

what do you drive? :finger: :finger: :finger:

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 5:34 pm
by N*A*M
drive? what is this driving you speak of?

anyway i'm homeless... the suzuki guys kicked me out :cry:
can i hang around you cool bundy blokes? 8) :finger:

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 5:35 pm
by ToNkA
N*A*M wrote:you need more blinker fluid, robbie. :finger:



eeeek, where do I get that from?

Do I need it for both sides?

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 5:35 pm
by BUNDERA
:agrue:



good. Let us know how u go.
Shouldnt cost much for one.

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 5:36 pm
by robbie
of course you can hang with us nam!!

on sunday you can hang around with us, but I'm hanging with the feroza blokes, so you're going to have to hang with them for the time being..

speaking of sunday, you coming?

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 5:37 pm
by N*A*M
yes you need some for both sides. make sure the amount is exactly the same on both sides or you will get death wobbles at +15kph. but if you do, you can always put a brick inside the tyres to balance it up. :roll:

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 5:37 pm
by robbie
ToNkA wrote:
N*A*M wrote:you need more blinker fluid, robbie. :finger:



eeeek, where do I get that from?

Do I need it for both sides?


if you went wheeling with me today, I would have given you some dude, I got heaps!!

:lol:

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 5:39 pm
by Sixty
ToNkA wrote:
N*A*M wrote:you need more blinker fluid, robbie. :finger:



eeeek, where do I get that from?

Do I need it for both sides?


The same place you get the bigger rubber bands!! :finger:

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 5:39 pm
by N*A*M
ewww... bundera's. i changed my mind. i'd rather be called a volvo driver! :finger:

not going on sunday cos going away this weekend.

haha you went wheeling? well i never! strange things do happen once in awhile eh?

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 5:41 pm
by robbie
N*A*M wrote:ewww... bundera's. i changed my mind. i'd rather be called a volvo driver! :finger:

not going on sunday cos going away this weekend.

haha you went wheeling? well i never! strange things do happen once in awhile eh?


was about to, trying to get tonka to meet up with me at seaford, but he was too busy..

so I just went and worked on my car

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 5:41 pm
by robbie
but I did go wheeling on sunday and monday :finger: :finger:

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 10:13 am
by Bush65
robbie wrote:no shroud around the fan


The shroud makes the fan suck air through the radiator. Without a shroud the fan sucks air from the engine bay (less resistance than through the radiator).