Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Ok, Been down to the local 4x4 shop, and they are telling me that I am better of getting a lockrite front locker for the GQ and not to worry about a rear, setting up for comp use, and of course the more challenging trips.

From my point of veiw front and rear Airlockers would be great as they give you a lot of control, but what do you guys reckon....the nissan limmos are good, but they still aren't a locker!!!!

Tiny

go the air locker there are going to be times in comp work when you dont want the front locked in..

maybe a loc rite in the rear but very a few people are doing this.

Thats what I would have thought, but this guy kept on telling me that everyone is getting lockrites for comp All the guys I know run air lockers

Tiny

well most people who do the extreme winch challenge are either using air lockers or maxi drives .

i cant believe that guy said you should go a front lock rite.....

use your own judgement what would u rather

Do yourself a favor and go with the air locker.

I had a lockrite in the front of a 60 series and always found it difficult to steer around rocks ect , in the mud it never wanted to go in the direction you pointed it in. Fitted a air locker in a 100 series and now GU and would never recommend anything else.

Sounds like he has a crate of lockrights to unload

Seems to be a strange combo he suggested, lockright front and open rear

maybe try a different shop, maybe one that actually races themselves.

AIR LOCKER FRONT

AIR LOCKER REAR

I can't believe anyone actually voted for an auto locker in the front, they suck - badly effect your turning radius, are dangerous in low traction side slope situations, and they aren't real strong. If you're building a competition vehicle, you NEED lockers (or a traction control package, not just a LSD), front and rear, and a manual locking diff (air locker, macnamara etc), is the only way to go.

I thought the air lockers would be the way to go, and I was dumbfounded when thjis guy told me to go front lockrite, but you never know, hence the question

Tiny

Used to run an air locker in the front and a modified factory LSD in the rear of my GQ. Worked extremely well. Although not as well as twin air lockers obviously

As mentioned before, there are times when you need to steer accurately around obstacles, most auto lockers won't allow it to happen

The bloke trying to sell you a front auto locker for comp use should look around at what everyone else is running

what shop was this , what comp experience does he have, id say front and rear air lockers

spazbot wrote:what shop was this , what comp experience does he have, id say front and rear air lockers

TJM in Blacktown!!! Shoulda gone to BBM next door stright away....in saying that, TJM own BBM

I went in to get pricing on front and rear air lockers and switches....dont want the pissy little ARB one so I setting up a high flow one, and they couldn't even get me that + wouldn't look at discount.....ARB list prices all the way and after all the shite I buy from them

Like I said, still shaking my head at the BS sell thing, the guy prolly a shop jocky with no 4b anyway I even told him I wanted control for tight corners, rocks etc but no.....he reckens most comp rigs are running lockrite, thats when I gave up and walked out

Oh well thats all from them now, will stick with Mannell and OL brooky

Tiny

4 oeoples voted for lockrite....please tell me why, no explinations or reasons FOR lockrite have been posted

i haven't voted, but i think the lockrite people voted for lockrites because they are much cheaper than getting an air locker.

Ric

well i havent voted yet, but i went with lockers front and rear mainly on price. and spent the money i saved on other things, but then again with comp stuff good chance you would have sponsorship and money would be a little easier. If money was spare i of gone airlockers.

bj

Sponsership is easier said than done, particularily with comp getting so popular, but will se how we go.....anyone want to sponser me???? I NEED LOCKERS

Tiny

benjamin78au wrote:... with comp stuff good chance you would have sponsorship...

bj

heh that's funny. I would say 80 - 90% of the blokes competing do it with little or no sponsorship whatsoever. The price differernce between air lockers and even cheapo lockrights isn't that much anyway, especially if you have to pay someone to install them

WTF!

at 1200ish air locked and 400ish imported from the us for locrite how do you figure that they are close in price?

800 a diff, installation should be the same if not less for the lockrite, 1600 for both!?

that isn't real close for my money

Busiboy wrote:WTF!

at 1200ish air locked and 400ish imported from the us for locrite how do you figure that they are close in price?

800 a diff, installation should be the same if not less for the lockrite, 1600 for both!?

that isn't real close for my money

Plus compressor and installation of air lines and electrics.

exactly!!

DD if $2000 is close for you can I have a loan?

I go close to paying you back

I have removed 2 auto lockers,1 front causing steering problems in a
L/R 110 off road and 1 read giving bad chatter and skittish on the road in a CJ 5
I would not want an uncontrolled locker in the front of my rig off road
J Top

I don't believe you could import a patrol lockright from the states anyway. Hell they don't have patrols

Therefore you would be paying aussie market price for autolockers double the import cost

In your situation you would be silly not to go air lockers really. Just get em elsewhere or at least from a different salesman at that particular TJM

TJM in Blacktown!!! Shoulda gone to BBM next door stright away....in saying that, TJM own BBM

No they don't!

I don't believe you could import a patrol lockright from the states anyway. Hell they don't have patrols

We import them all the time, and ones for OKA's and other non USA spec diffs.

We sell both Lock right and Airlockers. Pro's and cons to both. Come in and we'll sort it.

Had both , would always go with the airlocker in future, better build and more user friendly.

Liam wrote:

TJM in Blacktown!!! Shoulda gone to BBM next door stright away....in saying that, TJM own BBM

No they don't!

I don't believe you could import a patrol lockright from the states anyway. Hell they don't have patrols

We import them all the time, and ones for OKA's and other non USA spec diffs.

We sell both Lock right and Airlockers. Pro's and cons to both. Come in and we'll sort it.

Sorry mate, the same fella told me that BBM was owned by them

Maybe go talk to them

Tiny

Spend the money once on the right stuff, buy the cheap stuff and you'll only be paying more for the good stuff later on. If salesmen don't what to help turn your back and walk, they'll get the message and someone who does help will get the $$$$$

Where is the 3rd option "Mig Wire" ?

Go the air lockers front n rear, total control then.

I would not go to Toyota to source a Nissan genuine part so why go to TJM to buy an ARB Locker,cut the middle man and the chances of discount increase.
J Top

broke the pins in my lockrite 3 times, then broke the locker. enough said

Am I missing something here?

you went to TJM (surely ARB's main rival?) and asked them if they would recommend/do you a good deal on an ARB air locker?


also I dont think $310 to fit an air locker (plus $140 to fit the compressor) is even an issue - its not worth getting your hands dirty for!