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Mud tyres

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 11:02 pm
by Tomas
Hi everybody,
Are mud terrain tyres dangerous in road when it's raining? I use my car daily and doing offroad driving on weekends. Thanks. :D
Regards

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 11:05 pm
by ToNkA
They do provide less grip than a road tyre.

Dangerous No.

You just have to drive accordingly.




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Re: Mud tyres

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 7:43 am
by Strange Rover
Tomas wrote:Hi everybody,
Are mud terrain tyres dangerous in road when it's raining? I use my car daily and doing offroad driving on weekends. Thanks. :D
Regards


I think the goodyear MTR is probably the best in the wet. Buisness partner got them on his daily driver range rover (previously had BFG mud terrain) that sees about 60 000km/year and he thinks they are very good in the wet (and much better than the bfg muds) Looks like he will get about 70 000km out of them also (got about 50 000km on them now)

But as Tonka said still less grip than a road tyre. Although the MTRs are at least comparable.

Sam

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:50 am
by spazbot
Ive only really lost traction once with my bfg muds on a wet surface and i thick it had something to do with some oil on the raod in the road about and my lsd decideding it was time to work for once
the look on the other drivers faces as my lux slid sidways through the round about was well worth it though

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 10:33 am
by Wooders
I found the siping on my ProComp muddies gave it great traction in the wet.....But at the end of the day I think the general rule of thumb is better in the mud - the worse onroad generally......
But drive any mud tyre with your brain and not your right foot and they'll be just fine....

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 4:23 pm
by baby_troupe
My BFG Muddies are pretty good in the wet.
A definite improvement on the Bridgestone Dueller AT.

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 5:18 pm
by grimbo
they aren't dangerous in the wet if they were they would not be for sale or approved by various government bodies. Do they handle differently than a normal car road tyre, yes. But as you probably know you need to drive a 4by different than a normal car this applies to tyres as well.

I have found on my Suzuki (so i would imagine the effect on mine compared to say a Cruiser would be different) that mud tyres and swampers - which have been on the car for the last 3 years- don't behave that much differently than a milder tyre.

It comes down to driving sensibly and reading the road conditions morre than anything

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 6:07 pm
by Slunnie
I hear about people that want to run AT's on the road and a seperate set of rims and MT's for the rough stuff. To be honest the MT's are ok on the road. BTW I have the Cooper STT's so they are nothing special for a muddie and they have been fine.

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 6:59 am
by Zol
If you want dangerous in the wet...try my claws. very bad.

I had BF's before & weren't that great in the wet. Though i had the older versions. Don't know what the newer softer compound ones are like.

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 9:11 am
by bj on roids
MY BFGs seem to lose traction, an awful lot. 35x12.5, on 15x10" mags.

They have minimal grip on the blacktop as compared say a highway terrain. They even lose grip in the dry, especially when I get into it, sadly, I think they will only be good for around 7,000 kilometres in total, ive got say 6,000kilometres on them and they are almost toast.

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 11:18 am
by Wooders
Slunnie wrote:I hear about people that want to run AT's on the road and a seperate set of rims and MT's for the rough stuff. To be honest the MT's are ok on the road. BTW I have the Cooper STT's so they are nothing special for a muddie and they have been fine.


Actually you'll get a heap more that run muddies as road tyres and swampas, claws etc for the ruff stuff.....I run the muddies as a street/light trail because in the main they're fine and I don't wanna wear out an expensive set of swampa boots just going to the shops :finger:
(or getting past rego :oops: )

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 2:40 pm
by bj on roids
Swampers are cheap to wheel on.

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 8:42 pm
by v8grunt
to my knowledge the procomp Xterrian is the only offroad tyre with a silica compound, this is the chemical used by tyre manufacturs for wet weather performance. they are the best 4wd tyre i have used on wet roads by far.

mud tyres as a rule are ok just drive a little easyer.

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 10:47 pm
by ToNkA
v8grunt wrote:to my knowledge the procomp Xterrian is the only offroad tyre with a silica compound, this is the chemical used by tyre manufacturs for wet weather performance. they are the best 4wd tyre i have used on wet roads by far.

mud tyres as a rule are ok just drive a little easyer.


Goodyear market their tyre (the MTR) as having silica compound.

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 3:38 pm
by lowbox
I used to run ATs for the road and MTs otherwise (all BFGs) but the MTs aren't that bad and I run them all the time now. I do drive more cautiously in the wet though as they can let go quicker under hard braking - but so does a fourby compared to a car generally...

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 10:34 am
by Lil Menace
Well maybe they are scarey for you on the road in the wet, So here's what you do............... Get a rear locker! Drive on the foot path......... coz man twin rooster tail's of mud and grass coming out the back of a 4x4 at full noise is the best :D Not that i have tryed it or anything :finger: