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Suzi Mods - $1000 budget

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 3:23 am
by def-90
HI Guys -

This is my wife's stock Zuk and I plan to spruce it up a bit....

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I want to fit 31's.....

Whats the best way to get the springs, shocks, wheels and tyres for less than 1K???

Anyone got any of these bits for sale?

Also looking for some decent buckets...

Assume for 31's I need to do a bodylift and spring lift? Any advice on where to get the bits and pieces? I am OK with the tech side, no worries there as I used to have an LJ80 10 yrs ago with 33s. Just need some advise on best approach and parts for the sierra....

Im in Melbourne BTW....

Thanks!

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 7:34 am
by roadrunner
The OL for sale section should be your best friend ;)

Also have a read through some zook build ups on here and look at what they did. If your 1000 includes the price of 31's and rims, then you won't get much with whats left :?

Clean little car though :lol:

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 8:34 am
by droopypete
1st thing to do, is join the suzy club :)
Peter.

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 11:17 am
by stumped
mine was 'bout $600-700 for 2" springs, $900 for 31" bfgs second hand, $250ish for rims, and bodylift was $80 from a dude off here

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 1:50 pm
by markil
i payed $375 for alloys with 31's on them off ebay, then i got the sledge and mallet out no lift necessary :lol:

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 8:16 pm
by Spike_Sierra
i payed $50 for 2 inch body lift and 2 inch shackle lift
and fitted 30x9.5 motorway muds onto my standard rims for $400, and my tyres measure the same as 31 BFGs. Now thats cheap, but has everything the bought kits have.p

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 11:37 pm
by Da Zook
arent the standard rims only a 15*5.5.... how did they fit???

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:07 am
by -ZukChiK-
Da Zook wrote:arent the standard rims only a 15*5.5.... how did they fit???


Second that!

And, on the topic of factory/stock Sierra rims can anyone confirm the correct size of these ? are they in fact 15 x 5.5? Ive seen them stated as being 15x6 inch.... (and my boyfriend thinks they are 5 inch wide!!)

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:11 am
by Da Zook
i kno thyre a 15 * 5.5 on my 90 jx

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:37 am
by Da Zook
spike_sierra.... can this actually be done on the 5.5 i need toi know as this will save me a lot of time and money

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:10 pm
by OldGold
I think mine are 5 and 3/4

I just spent -

$150 2" front king springs
$200 2" rears
$300 Rancho 5000s
$500 15x7 rims (s/h) and 30" motorway muddy retreads.

Which is $1150 all up. I only bought lifted springs because mine are cactus, otherwise I would have cut it or body lifted it.

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:58 pm
by -ZukChiK-
OldGold wrote:I think mine are 5 and 3/4

I just spent -

$150 2" front king springs
$200 2" rears
$300 Rancho 5000s
$500 15x7 rims (s/h) and 30" motorway muddy retreads.

Which is $1150 all up. I only bought lifted springs because mine are cactus, otherwise I would have cut it or body lifted it.


Hey OldGold, how are the Rancho's going on your lifted springs? Im thinking of the same shocks for mine but want some feedback from anyone who has used them. I'm looking for a shock that is a softer ride but not slop!

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:17 pm
by zookwithdreams
I've set myself a bit of a similar budget but have already got a 2inch lift on my coiler so here is what i intend to do / Already have done

Rocklobster gearing
$150 for Xfercase - Already purchased
$200 to get gears joined
might be some more expenses here but not sure

Body Lift
$20 for blocks
(engineering shop i bought the metal off let me use their equipment too machine the blocks including taping the relavent blocks) :D
$10 for the bolts

Rims and Tyres
Still looking for some 31's on 15x8 rims but have seen sets with reasonable rubber for between $300-$400

Tube Front Bar
Don't know about price but considering making one as i have access to all the necessary equipment through work

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:00 pm
by DiStuRBeD
i have standard rims and could only go up to a 215/75 BFG's

mines a 95 zook tho, older maybe different

i need a new set of springs, any suggestions, i was thinking of just doing the rears to start with, a 2" lifted set, if i do this do i need to get new shockies, mine are standard as they are, as are the springs.

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:29 pm
by OldGold
Suzuki Surf Chik wrote:Hey OldGold, how are the Rancho's going on your lifted springs? Im thinking of the same shocks for mine but want some feedback from anyone who has used them. I'm looking for a shock that is a softer ride but not slop!


Not sure, because I haven't put them in yet. Was bloody hot today and I couldn't be bothered. :? I'll let you know how they go if you want when I'm done.

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:19 pm
by -ZukChiK-
OldGold wrote:
Suzuki Surf Chik wrote:Hey OldGold, how are the Rancho's going on your lifted springs? Im thinking of the same shocks for mine but want some feedback from anyone who has used them. I'm looking for a shock that is a softer ride but not slop!


Not sure, because I haven't put them in yet. Was bloody hot today and I couldn't be bothered. :? I'll let you know how they go if you want when I'm done.


Yeah that would be cool, let me know how they ride.... I've heard they are still a little stiff for Sierra's but I can't understand why having read up on them with positive website reviews. I don't want to replace the same type of shock i have now because they are pretty damn crap. Although they have been on a while now and i don't think they have much compression or rebound left!

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:34 pm
by Spike_Sierra
yep my 9.5 inch wide mudders are on standard rims, fit fine, i even air down to 8psi most trips away.
i have also flipped my rims eg, inside out, to give me close to f100 offset, no negative effects yet. and its free
http://groups.msn.com/4x4tasmania/brenn ... hotoID=371

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:52 pm
by built4thrashing
ive got rancho's in the front of my sierra and they make a huge difference. before the ride was really bouncy but now if i set them on soft most of the bounce is gone and i almost never set them to hard unless i wanna annoy the missus :lol: :P

ive also relocated the rear upper mounts inward and are using Triton factory shocks. i used some 40mm box and cut & drilled out new mounting holes and bolted it on to existing mounts. Can be totally removable and put back to stock.

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:40 pm
by -ZukChiK-
built4thrashing wrote:ive got rancho's in the front of my sierra and they make a huge difference. before the ride was really bouncy but now if i set them on soft most of the bounce is gone and i almost never set them to hard unless i wanna annoy the missus :lol: :P

ive also relocated the rear upper mounts inward and are using Triton factory shocks. i used some 40mm box and cut & drilled out new mounting holes and bolted it on to existing mounts. Can be totally removable and put back to stock.


hey B4T, are they the adjustable Rancho 9000's? have you got any pics so i can see the set up of rears as well?? :) And, what model factory Triton shocks did you use?

Hey does anyone want to see the wonderful effects of salt air ?? LOL

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:21 pm
by Da Zook
spike... they dont look like they are inverted or standard wheels... dont standards have holes???

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:32 pm
by -ZukChiK-
Da Zook wrote:spike... they dont look like they are inverted or standard wheels... dont standards have holes???


His is an 85 model zook which came out with those rims. I think they went to circle style 88-89.... Dont know about inverted though? What does that mean exactly?

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:41 pm
by Da Zook
i think that means u take the wheel off and face it inwards.,... i think

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:07 pm
by -ZukChiK-
Da Zook wrote:i think that means u take the wheel off and face it inwards.,... i think


Yeah that sounds about right and a logical explanation! Going by Spikes photos they still look like they're the right way around? I didn't think these rims had much offset anyway but then again I don't know a great deal about it, yet ;)

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:13 pm
by Da Zook
the thing that got me thinking was the valve.... if it was flipped wouldnt the valve be inside..... or am i far from my right in what he means by flipped wheels???

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:46 pm
by -ZukChiK-
Da Zook wrote:the thing that got me thinking was the valve.... if it was flipped wouldnt the valve be inside..... or am i far from my right in what he means by flipped wheels???


He would've drilled new holes for the valves, and flipped wheels does mean they're reversed/inverted/whatever as I just asked my boyfriend who knows a bit more about it than me LOL!! :cool:

The whole rig looks a bit deceiving in the pics as the 9.5" Motorways look a bit narrow but when you see them alongside the stock tyres you can see the difference! Still I'd like to see them alongside BFG's MT's for a better comparision.

Spike! Let's see some offroading action pics !!!

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:26 pm
by Spike_Sierra
yes thats correct, all i did with the rims was take the nuts off turn the rim around and put them back on. the nut holes are tapered on both sides so it centred the wheel again. and yes the valves are on the inside, which is a bit of a bugger, but i get much more offset, so i dont mind.
http://groups.msn.com/4x4tasmania/brennospics.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=606

http://groups.msn.com/4x4tasmania/brennospics.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=297

they are the standard 205/75/15's next to the 30x9.5's big difference. they are a little skinny then i would like, but any bigger and i would need more power, and skinnier is better in the mud, mine measure the same as a BFG 31 anyway :lol: no bush pics at the moment, i keep forgetting to take the camera

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:36 pm
by bazooked
ok guys a word of warning about the rs5000s, throw them in the bin u will see why after 2 hours drivin in ur car.had them for a week in my car and then i threw them out....utter crap and waste of money. :bad-words:

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:43 pm
by -ZukChiK-
bazooked wrote:ok guys a word of warning about the rs5000s, throw them in the bin u will see why after 2 hours drivin in ur car.had them for a week in my car and then i threw them out....utter crap and waste of money. :bad-words:


:shock: U sound pretty P**SED about it!!! What happened???
Did you have them with stock, lifted springs, or SPOA or anything?
In what way were they so bad and what are you using now (OME ??)

Very interested to know more details !! :lol:

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:41 am
by OldGold
Crap.

I just went with them because they were cheap and red, I'll have to try get a hold of my mate who ordered em before they get here, opt up to the 9000s or OMEs.

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:54 am
by Da Zook
bad news..... to to something with the wheels with holes.... the wont go on flipped.....