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GQ LWB 2" Body Lift!

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 5:57 pm
by Nor
Hey Guys!

I have a 94' GQ LWB, :twisted: with a 2" OME susp lift, and am looking for a 2" Body lift, so that I can fit 37" in the place of the 35" I'm already running!

Does anyone know where I can lay my hands on good quality body lifts, and if I need to change my diffs or ring & pinion to run the 37"s.

I already lost a bit of power :oops: off my 3rd and 4th gear after going from 31" to 35".

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 6:38 pm
by big red
have a look at http://truckster.offroad.au.com for a list of things to do.
shane :)

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 6:49 pm
by big red
idealy you should run 4.88:1 ratio with 37 inch tyres to bring it back to normal gearing, for 35 inch tyres you should be running 4.625:1 ratio's.
You could probably get away with the 4.6 diffs from a 2.8 td patrol which might be easier to find and appear to be stronger than the aftermarket 4.88's.
shane
BTW if you look at the aluminium plate on the firewall where it says "transaxle" the last two numbers indicate the diff ratio.
EG: 39 = 3.900:1 and 41 = 4.111:1 and 43 = 4.375:1 and 46 = 4.625:1

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 10:12 pm
by Nor
Thanks for the tips and the link!
:P

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 8:07 am
by Wendle
big red wrote:You could probably get away with the 4.6 diffs from a 2.8 td patrol which might be easier to find and appear to be stronger than the aftermarket 4.88's.


sorry, a bit off-topic, but have you seen anyone break any of these yet?? I was told by people to avoid the 4.88's as they "always break", but none of these people had seen one let go, or knew anyone who had busted a set??

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 10:48 am
by big red
no haven't seen one break but one got very noisy due to wearing in less than 20k
But i only know of three people running them and two of those have 2.8 td GU and the other a 4.2 GQ
the others havn't got that many k's up yet.
apparently it was noisy due to the hard casing wearing or something.
i know heaps of people with the 4.625 nissan dif and the only ones who have broken have been from breaking trailing arms which allowed the diff to move and sheered of the pinion and bent shocks etc
i have the 4.6 nissan diffs but i'm fairly gentle on them :lol:

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 10:51 am
by Wendle
OK, cool.... I have about 25k on my 4.88's, no worries yet. We did a couple extra things when we put them in though. Machined up solid spacers to replace the crush tube, and did a bit of machining to fit better quality pinion bearings into the carrier.

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 8:04 pm
by Cheezy4x4
A mate with a twin turbo shorty broke a 3.9 crown wheel and pinion last week. There huge so go figure. :?:

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 9:19 am
by Wendle
Cheezy4x4 wrote:A mate with a twin turbo shorty broke a 3.9 crown wheel and pinion last week. There huge so go figure. :?:


Does he have a replacement yet?

2x cases Melbourne bitter + Postage? ;)

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 8:55 pm
by Nor
But guys, if I go for the 4.88s, won't I suffer during long trips, and won't I loose speed on high gear when running in 2WD, since I drive my truck everyday and most of my trips are on the highways!

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 10:24 pm
by Drafty
Cheezy4x4 wrote:A mate with a twin turbo shorty broke a 3.9 crown wheel and pinion last week. There huge so go figure. :?:


That mate wouldn't have a car that pushes over 200kw at the rear wheels though?

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 10:36 pm
by moose
more than that !!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
& 38" swampers !!!!! :finger:

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 10:52 pm
by Cheezy4x4
240KW at rear wheels and 38.5x11 Boggers.
And yes he has a replacment thanks. :D

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2003 2:25 am
by Nor
Hey there!

Can any of you guys reply to my questions please!

THANKS! :x

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2003 8:41 pm
by big red
nor, running 4.88 diffs and 37" tyres will be the same as running 4.111 diffs and 31 inch tyres so it will be like driving a stock standard one .
that is unless you have a 2.8turbo diesel or a 3.0 litre petrol which have 4.625 and 4.375 diffs respectivly.

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2003 9:20 pm
by Nor
I run a 4.2l Petrol injection

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 12:05 am
by big red
nor, you would have 3.900 diffs or maybe 4.111's so it should drive like a stock standard one on the highway with 4.88's and 37 inch tyres.

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 1:20 am
by Nor
Thanx Big Red!

I'll C If I can get my hands on a 4.88!
If not, I will settle for a 4.6

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2003 3:15 pm
by Hoonz
alll gooooood just done the 50mm body lift on my patrol with the nylon blocks ... turned them up on the metal lathe here ... looks sweet
completed in about 3 hours.... note those with safari intercoolers need to mount them back to the orgininal height

small question ... how the hell do you fit 35" tyres under a gq with a 2" lift ... u must have alot cut out of ur guards ...

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 9:18 pm
by Nor
Well Terrafirma,
I did some cutting, all around the tire, and they fit perfectly.
They sometimes slightly brush when I am at full extension on one side.

As for more comfort, I am looking at a 2" body lift.
Do you have any plans, or do you know where I can find some or even a ready made full kit.

Cheers!

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 9:34 pm
by bogged
Nor wrote:Do you have any plans, or do you know where I can find some or even a ready made full kit.!



http://truckster.offroad.au.com/bodylift/bodylift.txt

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 9:39 pm
by Hoonz
I made my own kit! :lol: theres some pics floating around some where
after searching high and low around town I found a bearing shop that had
self lubricating nylon rod what ever u call it ... 72mm diameter
used a metal lathe to part it into 50mm blocks and to drill the 13mm hole in the center ... then went to bolt master to get 150mm high tensile bolts washers and spring washers and nuts to suit

undo all ur body bolts, lift to suit height insert blocks and bolts
and tighten nice and tight ... had to trim around the t/case lever
and if u have a safari turbo and intercooler .. u have to remount the intercooler to its original height (just bootyfabed some mounts)
if ya want some more pics pm me ya email I have a few
theres a post some where on here ... follow the steps and all will be fine
very easy .. took me bout 3 hours

Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 10:54 pm
by Nor
I would really appreciate that!

Anything you have, pics, step-by-step plan, links to pages....

My email is: norair@dm.net.lb
or off_roader_66@hotmail.com

Thanx a million!
Cheers :lol:

Posted: Wed May 07, 2003 1:36 am
by duncan
Did my first 2 inch lift on a 2.8 lwb GQ the other day al went well untill we tried to get low range hit the flor thats normal just cut the stick lengthend and bent to suit fine untill you couldnt get 2nd 4th or reverse first time this has happend the gear stick mount into the box is different to only 4 bolts on the plate bent it for now untill we can remove it to do a better mod just thought id let you guys no slightly different from a petrol or diesal 4.2 different gearbox its a Nissan thing

Posted: Wed May 07, 2003 1:37 am
by duncan
Did my first 2 inch lift on a 2.8 lwb GQ the other day al went well untill we tried to get low range hit the flor thats normal just cut the stick lengthend and bent to suit fine untill you couldnt get 2nd 4th or reverse first time this has happend the gear stick mount into the box is different to only 4 bolts on the plate bent it for now untill we can remove it to do a better mod just thought id let you guys no slightly different from a petrol or diesal 4.2 different gearbox its a Nissan thing

Posted: Wed May 07, 2003 3:59 pm
by bogged
while your at it change the body mount rubbers, it stops the clunks and bangs in the floor of a GQ.

just goto somewhere and buy a length of 75mm alloy rod, enough to cut into 12 equal lengths (LWB) for your body lift, and your 3/4 the way there.

buy the longer bolts mentioned in Bazzles How to, and then cut a V shape around the Shift lever and 4wd shift lever and your 4/4 the way there.