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psi???

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:10 am
by 45punkbus
Hey i have 31" x 10.5" tyers, what tyre pressure should i put in(psi).
I read the side wall and that said 50 or some crazy figure i thought was too much, i asked my brother who is into 4x4's and he didnt know so i brought it to you guys,

p.s. i only just my p's, don't laugh at my stupidness... :)

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:17 am
by Busiboy
DEpends on the car too,

Hilux I am guessing,

Try about 30-32 in the front and 28 in the back.

All depends how you want the car to run on the road, what you carry, do you have a V8 in it etc

Stock petrol sigle cab lux those numbers lowest, any other things keep adding 2.

V8 + 2
Dual Cab +2
Tray full of tools +2
etc

Drive in and ask your tyre shop

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:20 am
by ausyota
Around 30 on road and 15 off is a good start.
It all depends on a lot of factors though. The weight of your 4wd the type and size of your tyres and the width of your rims.
Paul.

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:30 am
by 45punkbus
thanks, just letting you guess know its a 1980's 45 series troppy.
i got like 40 psi in at the moment, drives nicely, i also got 15" rims don't know there width, if bad_r reads this he will inlighten us because it was his car originally(he is the one who didn't know tyer pressure).
diesle as well.
cheers.

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:31 am
by 45punkbus
sorry that was guys not guess...

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:24 am
by Sixty
Depending on load and accessories -30-40 psi on road.

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:38 pm
by tukadafoonday
pump them up to 50 and wait for them to go back down... and then pump them back up.

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:14 pm
by bad_religion_au
it's a 45 troopy, not much luggage, 30 is a little too soft for it i think, i ran it for a couple of years on 30, and it wore the outside edges too much,

from memory dean, it ran well with 36 psi, maybe more in the back, but you know how much stuff i used to cart around.

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:16 pm
by huntagrunta
im a mechanic, run 50 in them, i got same tyres , let them down if goin bush

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:49 pm
by 45punkbus
yeah i have 50 in em now, feels like power steering, very light, i like it, drifting made easy :)

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:37 am
by dumbdunce
huntagrunta wrote:...run 50 in them...


:shock: 50 is great if you want them to wear in a narrow band down the middle of the tread, ride like you've got no suspension, and skid all over the place in the wet, but it will provide good fuel economy.

a reliable method of setting your tyre pressure is the '4psi rule':

set your tyres to what you think is a decent pressure, then go for a drive at or above 100km/h for 40 mins to an hour, then check the pressure again. If the pressure you set cold was about right, the hot pressure will be able 4psi higher. if your set pressure was too low, the pressure will rise more than 4psi due to excess heat. if too high, the pressure will not rise as much. This method will give a good compromise between wear, ride and handling. of course if you want to you can bias your pressures to improve handling, economy, wear or ride, depending on what's important to you.

don't try it on a rainy day, the water tends to cool the tyres as you drive and you won't get a reliable reading. also note that pressure changes with changes in ambient temperatures so it's important to check tyre pressures regularly.

cheers

Brian

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:51 am
by Sixty
huntagrunta wrote:im a mechanic, run 50 in them, i got same tyres , let them down if goin bush



and this makes you the guru on tyre pressures?? Mate, been swinging spanners for over 17 years but that doesnt make me a tyre pressure guru. I used to own a FJ45 troopy, and depending on load/accessories as well as terrain/driving style, 30-40psi was good for me. This is what worked for ME.

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:45 am
by MY45
I would say that 50psi is a massive over kill. As dumbdance said it'll wear a strip of tread down the centre of your tire much faster thatn the rest and handling/comfort on bumpy roads would be at a minimum.

Id say 32-38psi on road and 10-15psi off road

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 4:55 pm
by 4sum4
38psi

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:05 pm
by bruiser
like it's been said. depends what you want.

I reckon

low 30's for comfortable ride at the loss of fuel economy and tyre wear

high 30's better economy reduced tyre wear but a little bumpy.

I run mine at 38
Steve

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:53 pm
by bad_religion_au
will buggered wheel/ kingpin bearings affect the temp change method?

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:26 pm
by dumbdunce
bad_religion_au wrote:will buggered wheel/ kingpin bearings affect the temp change method?


to some extent yes - stuffed wheel bearing runs hot anyway, and causes excessive toe out and negative camber, which causes front tyres to scrub/scuff -> heat, similar effect from stuffed king pin bearings.

fix them up - it's easy and relatively cheap, around $45/side for wheel bearings and $200ish for knuckle rebuild kit, a pot of grease and an afternoon in the sun and you're all set.

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:43 pm
by bad_religion_au
dumbdunce wrote:
bad_religion_au wrote:will buggered wheel/ kingpin bearings affect the temp change method?


to some extent yes - stuffed wheel bearing runs hot anyway, and causes excessive toe out and negative camber, which causes front tyres to scrub/scuff -> heat, similar effect from stuffed king pin bearings.

fix them up - it's easy and relatively cheap, around $45/side for wheel bearings and $200ish for knuckle rebuild kit, a pot of grease and an afternoon in the sun and you're all set.


that's the plan, just gotta convince 45punkbus that it's a good idea...

either that or swap in the spare front axle sitting out the back, with no wheelbearing or kingpin bearing play at all... his call :)

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 7:30 pm
by 45punkbus
i got a plan i provide the $$$ u provide that lovely afternoon in the sun, don't forget that tub of grease :P

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 8:52 pm
by bad_religion_au
that sounds gay even if you are my bro

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 11:56 am
by quick60
Use dumbdunce's 4psi rule. I've been using that one for 20 years and is pretty spot on. (got 70K out of BFG MT and them sold em for $100 each ! )

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 12:00 pm
by skootin
Bet you can't get them to hold 70 psi :lol:

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 10:48 pm
by bad_religion_au
in 4x4 monthly didn't roothy fill his spare to 100psi to act as a compressor cylinder

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 10:56 pm
by taziiy
I run 34-36 depending on gauges what they say