1.3EFI GTI motor
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 7:06 pm
thinkin bout putin in a 1.3 EFI in the zook, do they bolt sraight in? what fitting issues will there be e.g. dizzy?
thanks
Daniel
thanks
Daniel
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 10:01 pm
You can pick up adaptors for the dizzy but do you really want too put a GTI in as they need too scream 4thou plus on the revs and if you want a 4by that work well off road you will be FLYING?????????????????????
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 10:09 pm
wat would you recommend putting in? im looking for a cheap option $1000 max!!
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 10:12 pm
waste of my 1000 post !!!! 
vitara 1.6 !!!!
or just rockhopper the 1.3 !!!!!
vitara 1.6 !!!!
or just rockhopper the 1.3 !!!!!
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 10:18 pm
i've got a rockhopper coming, but i want to go efi for the relaibilty and the ability for it to operate on any angle and not starve for fuel!! with the 1.3 and 1.6 will they dircectly bolt up to the sierra g/box or is there an adaptor?
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 10:29 pm
if you just want EFI , jimny motor bolts in !!!(I think !!!)
some one has done it !!! but cant remeber who !!!
theoldman maybe ????
some one has done it !!! but cant remeber who !!!
theoldman maybe ????
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 10:39 pm
thanxs for the help so far moose and 12uke
wat mods have to be dont to make the 1.3efi bolt up to the gearbox such as an adaptor plate or is there a kit? i need all the info i can get so i make the cheapest and best decision!!!
wat mods have to be dont to make the 1.3efi bolt up to the gearbox such as an adaptor plate or is there a kit? i need all the info i can get so i make the cheapest and best decision!!!
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 10:42 pm
the cheapest and best decision depends on if you can get a bargain or not.
i got 2 rangie 3.5 v8s for $450 complete so that's what i went with. certainly not a standard conversion but anything is possible.
if you've got a line onto an engine and the price is right, GO FOR IT. more power is good. 8)
lpg can be run with a carby and doesn't stall on angles.
i got 2 rangie 3.5 v8s for $450 complete so that's what i went with. certainly not a standard conversion but anything is possible.
if you've got a line onto an engine and the price is right, GO FOR IT. more power is good. 8)
lpg can be run with a carby and doesn't stall on angles.
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 11:37 pm
ehehe just keep your foot on the loud pedal 
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 12:18 am
Dtzook, yes the 1.3L EFI out of the jimny bolts straight in, no adaptors required at all. However u would be pretty lucky to get one for under $1000.
Picture of mine are at : http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... php?t=1705
Picture of mine are at : http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... php?t=1705
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 12:23 am
knew it was you !!!!
I knew someone haad done it !!!!
"pats self on back "
god , im good !!!!!
I knew someone haad done it !!!!
"pats self on back "
god , im good !!!!!
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 12:26 am
moose wrote:knew it was you !!!!
I knew someone haad done it !!!!
"pats self on back "
god , im good !!!!!
not as good as me biatch!!
Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 10:15 pm
Am putting gti motor in my 88 swb zook the mods i know of are the right angle dizzy adapter,changing the top inlet for the radiator, wiring in the computer etc,might need a body lift to fit the engine under the bonnet.If anybody has more details let me now as it would help me when i drop mine in.Oh youll need a high pressure fuel pump as well to feed the fuel injection.cheers! 
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 8:52 pm
Bump
Giving this some thought.
Benefits:
Bolts in
injection
cheap
more power
better engine braking
injection
more torque
injection
Problems:
ahmm...I aint got one
Giving this some thought.
Benefits:
Bolts in
injection
cheap
more power
better engine braking
injection
more torque
injection
Problems:
ahmm...I aint got one
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 9:09 pm
N*A*M wrote:the cheapest and best decision depends on if you can get a bargain or not.
i got 2 rangie 3.5 v8s for $450 complete so that's what i went with. certainly not a standard conversion but anything is possible.
if you've got a line onto an engine and the price is right, GO FOR IT. more power is good. 8)
lpg can be run with a carby and doesn't stall on angles.
How'd you go fitting the 3.5V8 under the bonnet?
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 10:47 pm
uphiir wrote:Bump
Giving this some thought.
Benefits:
Bolts in
injection
cheap
more power
better engine braking
injection
more torque
injection
Problems:
ahmm...I aint got one
Also the GTI motor is supposedly tougher than even the 1.3 .. the pistons have oil sprays under them, the crank is tougher (not that normal Zuk cranks are known to break) the conrods are stronger etc .. They can alos sustain high revs for an extended period. Also the other thing is that the GTI computer can be chipped to allow cam mods etc or even forced induction if you feel the need.
You do need to be a bit more careful with the timing belt tho as from memory they are an interfearance motor, so ifa belt goes at full noise in a bog hole .. it becomes a big alloy lump of rubbish ...
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 8:12 am
Kermit has been running them for years, If you have a motor with a perticular power curve and gear the vehicle to suit then it can work well.
I think a lot of guys where put off the motor because of conversions previous to rockhoppers , Without gearing these things would be a bit of a night mare, With gearing i think it would be fine .
Injection is good for angles ect but a couple of things could be a pita , if
you havn't got super low gearing and have a habit of getting below idle revs you could find the knock sensor shutting you down prematurley.
I think a lot of guys where put off the motor because of conversions previous to rockhoppers , Without gearing these things would be a bit of a night mare, With gearing i think it would be fine .
Injection is good for angles ect but a couple of things could be a pita , if
you havn't got super low gearing and have a habit of getting below idle revs you could find the knock sensor shutting you down prematurley.
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 8:18 am
Dozoor wrote:Kermit has been running them for years, If you have a motor with a perticular power curve and gear the vehicle to suit then it can work well.
I think a lot of guys where put off the motor because of conversions previous to rockhoppers , Without gearing these things would be a bit of a night mare, With gearing i think it would be fine .
Injection is good for angles ect but a couple of things could be a pita , if
you havn't got super low gearing and have a habit of getting below idle revs you could find the knock sensor shutting you down prematurley.
As Gerg runs a motor almost litterally half this size to pretty reasonable effect with the correct gearing for the engines power curve (6:1 hopper and 5.13's with stuff all vehicle weight) I would say it can be made work very well ...
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 8:43 am
Yep - it's all about the gearing fellas 
My monster engine works a treat - and the whole car seems to perform very nicely due to its low gearing and the fact that the car is very light.
I tend to drive most tricky sections in the car at between 1000 and 2000rpm - which is still pretty slow in the car
However, definately if it wasn't running so much gearing it would be pretty crap to drive - just like running a 1.3L sierra engine with bigger tyres i guess.
My monster engine works a treat - and the whole car seems to perform very nicely due to its low gearing and the fact that the car is very light.
I tend to drive most tricky sections in the car at between 1000 and 2000rpm - which is still pretty slow in the car
However, definately if it wasn't running so much gearing it would be pretty crap to drive - just like running a 1.3L sierra engine with bigger tyres i guess.
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 3:41 pm
I have the gti engine in mine and have had for sometime now and i am also running a rockhopper.
I ditched the 1300 block in favour for an imported 1500 block and it was a little better.
Now its turbo charged so its pretty god.
Although, if i went to do it all over again i would go for a vitara 16v 1600 efi engine. The gti engine is all about revs and the vitara engine is all about torque.
The gti is terrible on the highway cause of this lack of torque and also uses heaps of fuel for a worse result that a vitara 1600.
Danny
I ditched the 1300 block in favour for an imported 1500 block and it was a little better.
Now its turbo charged so its pretty god.
Although, if i went to do it all over again i would go for a vitara 16v 1600 efi engine. The gti engine is all about revs and the vitara engine is all about torque.
The gti is terrible on the highway cause of this lack of torque and also uses heaps of fuel for a worse result that a vitara 1600.
Danny
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 7:31 pm
So Zuker 1500 , Yours is the import one --- Does this block have the same bolt pattern on the rear as the 1.3 or the 1.6 ?
Larry.
Larry.
Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 10:21 pm
Its the import 1500 one and well it bolted up to the gearbox using one of those flash adaptor kits so i would have to say 1600 block would be the same.
Was a reasonably easy install, same mods a fitting a 1600
Danny
Was a reasonably easy install, same mods a fitting a 1600
Danny
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 12:14 am
Hey guys, do any of you know were i can pick up the dizzy adapter for the 1300 gti twin cam.Want to drop it in my zook and cant find them anywere.Thanks.
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 7:10 am
www.suzisport.au.com sell them.
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 9:20 am
Thanks for the info xtreem
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 2:56 pm
Wahoo!!! Got hold of a fully rebuilt GTi motor today for the grand sum of $50!!!!
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