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				Hilux engine noise at high rev.. help
				Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:31 pm
				by BadLux
				Hey i need a diagnosis on the lux. Ok this is the story at 2700rpm - 2900rpm I get a loud rattle sound. It does it in neutral with the clutch in so it's not gearbox also in 2wd and 4wd.  My guess is its piston slap.. not good. What do you guys all think?? Is it fixable?? the noise goes away at higher revs. Its an 89 single cab turbo 2.8 engine with 250kms if this helps. Look forward to your help.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:47 pm
				by longlux
				does it ever do it with the clutch not depressed
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 7:09 pm
				by BadLux
				Yeh it does it all the time whether im driving or just reving it on the spot.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 7:55 pm
				by eliteforce32
				ok don't know if this may help, i had well sounds  similar, and i thought that i was developing a bottom end rattle, but what it was, was the clutch slave was fucked, and it was not fully depressing the yoke lever????? and was only rattle at high revs! 

  don't no if this helps
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 8:37 pm
				by longlux
				i thought it may have been the thrust bearing
you need to get around the motor & have a listen when its doing it to find out where its coming from you can use a screw driver up to your ear (the handle end) or invest in a Stethoscope
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 8:39 pm
				by BadLux
				it only ever does it at around 2700-2900rpms and makes no difference if the clutch is in or out?? Im pretty sure it might be engine trouble. It still drives fine but if it is engine rattle what will eventually happen and should I fix it or just wait until it actually causes problems. I don't want to have to get an entire new engine because I didn't fix something that could of only cost $200 bucks or so. The problem is i've asked a few different mechanics and they all tell me different diagnostics.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 8:49 pm
				by plowy
				I no this sounds dum but oil level ? have u checked tappets ? try a compression test ? is there a lot of blow buy threw the filler cap? tryed the long  srew driver to ear  and to various areas of the eng? does it sound at the top or bott ? is it using oil ? oil colour?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:24 pm
				by toyrex
				Where in Perth are you 
Can you bring your Hilux to Maddington 
94932769  or 0419911394
Adrian
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 1:11 am
				by BadLux
				That depends on whether its gonna cost me an arm and a leg just bought new tyres so very very broke atm
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 8:38 am
				by Rusty_
				Hi 
Just a suggestion, I have seen this on a couple of other makes of vehicles.
If there is a tin plate bolted onto the exhaust manifold ( a sort of heat shield ) sometimes they get cracks around the bolts holding them on. They can also create some silly noises in a motor at revs.
I dont say it is the problem but its worth checking out.
Cheers
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 10:43 pm
				by toyrex
				BadLux wrote:That depends on whether its gonna cost me an arm and a leg just bought new tyres so very very broke atm
It cost nothing to look at 
I hope you are not judging me by yourself with the arm and a leg bit
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 2:32 am
				by BadLux
				haha nah i'm only kidding toyrex i've spoke to you off perth4x4 i know your a good bloke. thought that comment would get ya going tho. yeh i mite give ya a ring next week sumtime. Cheers kob.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 7:00 am
				by POS
				Check all you Exhaust mounts, the exhaust could be swinging in the breze and knocking against something. Once again a silly thought but sometimes thats all it is!
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 12:03 pm
				by BadLux
				well the thing that gets me is it only ever makes the noise at the exact revs every time and I can hold it on 2800 and it will continue to make the noise weird.. exhaust I just had done so don't think it'll be that.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 9:18 pm
				by Mick_n_Sal
				Just on the offchance - is this rig fitted with a snorkel ?? If so check the usual sources of 2.8L snorkel noise, including the non-collapse spring ( if fitted )
Mick_n_Sal
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 9:35 pm
				by plowy
				yes mick youre right about snorkel probs check if mounting bolts are loose even seen guys turn the ram head to chase out snorkel noise / vibrations
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 10:50 pm
				by toyrex
				Coming in at set revs it is a viabration caused by harminics 
You need to set the revs and then climb over in and around listening 
Adrian
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 12:35 am
				by BadLux
				so what you guys think i know its hard to tell without listening to the noise yourself but would you say its an indication of a major problem or nothing to worry about??
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:48 pm
				by toyrex
				Without seeing or hearing the noise it is imposable to give a honnest  opinion 
But saying that and with out seeing it I will say it is going to blow up and you had better sell it to me for a bottle of bundy 
Adrian