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auto hub problems
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 6:00 pm
by frontyMatt
Hi eveyone,
I own a 97 Frontera sport, and in recent times i have been having troubles with my auto hubs.
There are serious micanical noises coming from the front end. Once the auto hubs have locked in they continue to make loud bangs every few feet, more noticible in 1st and 2nd low range.
Are the hubs stufed?
If this is the case can i fit manual locking hubs from MU or Rodeo to my Frontera Sport?. I
any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
thanks, Matt
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 7:00 pm
by Utemad
The first thing I would be doing is finding out how to grease them.
As for fitting manual hubs I can't see why it wouldn't be a fairly straight forward job.
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 11:35 am
by Westoztroopa
Welcome FrontyMatt.
Check out the thread from the FAQ section.
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modules/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=26297
All Isuzu manual hubs are apparently interchangable across model. You may want to think about changing over to the manuals either way. It shouldnt be too expensive to pick up a set of Aisins from the wreckers.
Noel
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 1:42 pm
by Yarno
I'd also be checking the oil in the front diff, to see if there are metal peices in there.
Mine made the same noise and it ended up being the spider gears in the diff.... if that's what happened do what I did and install a locker.
Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:22 pm
by frontyMatt
thak for the replys guys!!
I dont think it is the diff, just had it rebuilt 3000ks ago. but i gues it wont hurt to drop the oil and have a look.
I will ring around a few wreckers about manual locking hubs.
I would prefer manual hubs anyway, and if they fix the prob well i will be happy!
,Matt
Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:29 pm
by FRN-71E
frontymatt.. i have a 95 frontera sports with auto's and they do make a heap of bangs but i am trying to get maunals , becuase every time you go in to reverse off road even if you are in 4wd they will unlock.. i get stuck on the beach every time.. The front hubs are the same as the TF rodeo as i have been told... Post some pics of your beast me wanna see!!!!
Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:52 pm
by frontyMatt
Hey frontie,
yeh sometimes it feels like the hubs silp and then re engage causing some nocks and bangs, always done it abit , but has become worse over time.
The other week at Stockton it was doing it every three meters, became almost un driveable!
TF rodeo you say, ill look in to it.
Got some pics 4 you.
Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:59 pm
by frontyMatt
some more..
Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 11:09 pm
by frontyMatt
few more...
Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 11:26 pm
by frontyMatt
Stockton
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:36 am
by FRN-71E
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:09 pm
by 4x4roza
the knock in your hubs is a common problem in these cars the is a circlips inside the hubs that hold the cv's in i have come across this coming loose causing a knock when the hubs are locked.... the engagement of the hubs is control by a vacumm solenoid on the pass side on the fire wall make sure this is all ok the actuator is mounted on the pass side of the diff housing too.
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:11 pm
by frontyMatt
thanks 4x4roza, will check that out
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:34 pm
by dansTOYOwagon
some more shots of your car from Watagans Matt
Dan
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:51 pm
by frontyMatt
Thanks Dan, haven't seen thoes pic befor
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:25 pm
by FRN-71E
Mate.. what mods you got done to the frontera...????
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:26 pm
by FRN-71E
Mate.. what mods you got done to the frontera...????
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 12:04 pm
by frontyMatt
it has;
,31''muds
,Old Man Emu suspention
,GME uhf
,duel bateries
....and soon to come manual hubs, picked up a pair from the wreckers today, will let you know how it goes fiting them.
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:04 pm
by Yarno
Just thought I'd throw a pic in or two
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:05 pm
by FRN-71E
mate.. we all your MU is crazy.....
I wouldn't mind seeing in really off road....
FrontyMatt....nicemods.. How did you do the dual battiers i would like to do the same...
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:40 pm
by Westoztroopa
Have you got drive to that front diff now Yarn?
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:52 pm
by Yarno
no................... been a little slow at the moment, but I'll get back into it soon.
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:07 pm
by frontyMatt
Yarn, thats some awsome flex you've got happening.....got me thinking a SAS
frontie, sorry, but i cant say i know much about eletrics, i can tell you i run a deep cycle 100amp hour battery mounted behind the drivers seat in a battery box. and an isolator to control it.....and thats about as far as i can go
,Matt
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 9:01 pm
by frontyMatt
...Well the manual hubs are instaled and the problem fixed
Hubs fited fine, no worries at all.
Thanks guys for the advice,
Matt.
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:33 pm
by FRN-71E
Hey dude.. where can i get a set of 2inch or 2.5inch lifted coils...
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 3:00 pm
by frontyMatt
Your best bet for a lift is to get custom coils,
Most aftermarket coils made for the car only get a lift from the increase spring rate over standard coils.
I bought Carrols coils which gave me 30mm lift,
now have OMEs which gave 40mm over standed hight.
When you compare the standard coils to the aftermaket ones they both measure the same hight ,Its only when they have the load of the car on them do the aftermaket ones give lift.
so i would recomend if you want a noticable increase get custom made ones.
when i looked in to this i was going to get 'Dobbison' ( i think that how you say it???) custom made coils. Around 2.5 inch over standard hight. and mathch them to long travel ProComp shocks. and then sway bar disconectors.
speek to a custom 4WD specialist about it ....they should be able to help out.
Cheers,Matt
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:45 pm
by FRN-71E
Yer, i all ready got 35mm lift from a set of King Springs heavy duty and yer i noticed that they were the same high..... When i was looking in to coils all i could get around NEwcastle was the King's for $120 a set and customs around $350 so you can see why i get the king's...and i got a set of Cross Country 41mm bore foam cell 2inch long travel shocks.. and i will be making a quick discon front sway bar in my holis and taking the rear one out... thanks for the extra info....
my msn user email is
mbucko35@hotmail.com
if ya use it .. it would be good to have a chat one time