Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Brains Trust,

1. Do the Mu's have rear disc brakes on the leaf spring model?

2. If the answer to question 1 is yes, are the centres/ratios the same as the 95ish diesel rodeo?

3. If 1 & 2 are yes, is there anything stopping the installation a rear MU diff under a rodeo??

I was just thinking of an easy was to get rear disc brakes under a rodeo.

1. Yes

2. Yes 4.56:1 have the same center as well

3. hand brake cables will be different with 89-94 2.8td MU's and 94 on 3.1td would be similar as these have a drum inside the disc...

Hmmm.. this sounds interesting. Is the track the same as the Rodeo? Then again sligh changes in track could be made up with different rim offsets.

So lets assume that it goes straight on, does the break system beed change, i.e. the vacumme booster and other bits and pieces? Rear wheel drums are giving me the gripes on my current vehicle!

Cheers

Rainesey

Not sure about brakes as I have never done this....

I think the track would be the same 1460mm is the wheel track on the MU with 0 offset...

but I also know that the 2.8 MU diff is the same as the 2.8 Jackaroo diff, 88-91 ...

Also consider the 2nd gen Jackaroo diffs. The autos and diesels have the 4.56:1 12 bolt diffs and also a 1460mm track...

Noel

Hmm, by second generation do you mean the UBS Jacks. This being the case don't they have 4 link coil spring rather than leaf?

I guess there may be a model with rear spring suspension that may be compatable.

Cheers

Rainsey

Another question, and I am probably showing my naivity here, but where do I source a MU rear end?

I contact wreckers around the Central Coast and they have trouble differentiating an R7 to an R9 Rodeo!!

If I mentioend a MU they would look at me as if I came from a diffent planet... (Planetisuzu.. hoho)

Cheers
Rainsey

rainsey wrote:Hmm, by second generation do you mean the UBS Jacks. This being the case don't they have 4 link coil spring rather than leaf?

I guess there may be a model with rear spring suspension that may be compatable.

Cheers

Rainsey

Doh! you're right. Didnt really think about that one did I. Unless a leaf spring conversion is reasonably easy...

By swapping diff centres/housings etc, would I be able to get a diff centre that would accept a lockright auto locker (or maybe a ARB Air-Locker) & have disc brakes??

I know that for a fact that the air locker fits........ and that is a RD44

This is the same locker for the Rodeo, Jackeroo, MU......... (Isuzu 12 bolt)

this is from the ARB site

I would be interested in seeing if anybody has or will do a MU/Frontera rear diff swap........ my rear diff is leakin like a screen door on a submarine......... rather than pullin it out and spending 600 bux getting it reco'd, might be easier to get my hands on a diff from a jap wrecker in Sydney. Rear disks would be nice especially if i put 33's on it

I was considering a coil conversion on my Rodeo. Getting a rear chassis cut of an MU and transferring all the bits. However I decided I wasn't that keen.

RoeDao wrote:I would be interested in seeing if anybody has or will do a MU/Frontera rear diff swap........ my rear diff is leakin like a screen door on a submarine......... rather than pullin it out and spending 600 bux getting it reco'd, might be easier to get my hands on a diff from a jap wrecker in Sydney. Rear disks would be nice especially if i put 33's on it

I saw a Rodeo today with 33's on it. Looked great.
It looked like it only had a mild suspention lift of only 2 inches but it also had a body lift of 3 - 4 inches.

I wish I was keen enough to do a body lift on mine.

Cheers,
Dave.

Sorry, off topic slightly.

soooo

any good news about this...it can be possible fit a Mu rear diff into Rodeo ??

cheers

Yarno wrote:3. hand brake cables will be different with 89-94 2.8td MU's

yes....i´m doing the conversion right now... ´cause I have stock 8/10 diffs combination in my ute . My problem is how to enlarge the handbrake cable....my ´91 Mu axle has a shorter cable than the ute ones.

any help will be very great !!!

chao

what about the MU front end they seem to sit higher than the jacks does anyone no if they are higher and if they are how much work it is to do the swap.

also does anyone no if the front control arms out of a 98 and later model jacka woulds fit in a 94 one. before you all think im crazy the 98 and later control arms are 18 mm longer than the 94 and i could do with the extra height.

dani4JB1T wrote:

Yarno wrote:3. hand brake cables will be different with 89-94 2.8td MU's

yes....i´m doing the conversion right now... ´cause I have stock 8/10 diffs combination in my ute . My problem is how to enlarge the handbrake cable....my ´91 Mu axle has a shorter cable than the ute ones.

any help will be very great !!!

chao

Dani the only thing I can think of is cables from a LWB Jackaroo/trooper 91 model which had the same diff as the MU (with the disc brakes), I don't know if the troopers over there would have the same setup though....

or next option is to do a centre mount disc hand brake. This would eliminate the uselessness of the MU handbrake issue (yes they are crap)

Hope this helps ya

yes we have chilean Troopers (US style) and Bighorns (Jap imported) here...ahh...yesterday i saw a white Jackaroo over here, so we have a few Aussies too. I´m going to look for some new brakes or a larger cable.
Yes they are crap...my Mu handbrake never works fine.
Thanks for your help.

cheers

work done....just need to enlarge the cables...

all parts fits and works good.