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				opinions
				Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:28 am
				by Busiboy
				I am thinking intot he future with my FJ40, Done most things except
Winch
Lockers
Which ones first? the dollar difference isn't the issue it will just be one or the other. Which one is better value?
If it is a winch, how big do I go? 8, 10 or 12?
Thinking electric, because if I am in trouble the odds are I won't to be relying on the engine. Carby and all that.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:37 am
				by Eddywelder
				Go lockers first...makes driving so much better and you will rarely need a winch once you have them...
I have Arb air lockers front and rear and can go places now that I couldnt go before....they arent cheap but I am glad I have them fitted... 
 
Eddy
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:53 am
				by shirlz
				if you can only afford one at the moment get a winch no matter what situation you are in a winch will get you out (plus the right accessories)
lockers will get you into more trouble than out of more trouble
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:58 am
				by Shorty40
				Screw the 'sensible' option  
 
Get the lockers - you will wonder how you ever wheeled without them  
 
I had lockers before winch - and I have no regrets
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:20 pm
				by -Scott-
				Drive it - don't drag it!  
 
Go the lockers first - drive in without them,  reverse out with them.  
 
Learn the capabilities of your vehicle,  instead of tackling everything wrong and then giving up with "Bugger it,  I'll winch it."
Just a personal opinion...
Scott
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:09 pm
				by Mudzuki
				Winch
Lockers just get you further and deeper into the sh*t
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:12 pm
				by BadLux
				Lockers no questions asked. And just wheel with other people who have winches.  
  
  You can always get a cheap handwinch for emergency's I mean how often do you plan on getting stuck??
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:04 pm
				by Bingham
				[quote="BadLux"]Lockers no questions asked. 
i think most with practical 4x4ing experience will agree you'd be mad not to get lockers first.........
if i go out on the weekend i got  4x4ing not winching....
granted my mates have saved my ass many times with winch but it would been ten 000 times that with many rollovers without my trusty locking friends..
lock em up
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:06 pm
				by Bingham
				Mudzuki wrote:Winch
Lockers just get you further and deeper into the sh*t
isnt that ol's moto/ the whole vibe of serious 4x4ing
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:46 pm
				by -Scott-
				Bingham wrote:If i go out on the weekend i go  4x4ing not winching....
Doesn't this sum the argument beautifully?  

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 6:48 pm
				by rb30s
				Busiboy,
What BadLux said....Lockers + hand winch
adrian
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:28 pm
				by ausyota
				It depends.
If you like doing extreme off road stuff by yourself get a winch.
But lockers make stuff sooooooo much more fun!!!
Just travel with a mate.
Paul.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:21 pm
				by MQ080
				lockers
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:24 pm
				by Col James
				Lockers . Helps leaf sprung rigs heaps when u run out of articulation. I have ARB Rear but will be getting front soon. I have a electric winch as well but I hardly use it now 
 
Dont discount other types of winches as when your motor isn't running u 
wont get anywhere on battery alone 

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:29 pm
				by scotto
				R LOCKER   ->   WINCH   ->   FR LOCKER
winch will get me thru what front locker mightn't, esp by myself, ok so dragging is cheating and i'd rather have more chance of driving it with front locker, but i got mates with neither and it makes our days out SO much better
just my $0.02
stage 3 will happen this year though  
 
cheers scottO
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:57 pm
				by morkz
				fuck the sensible option you'll have more fun with lockers  
 
your out there to enjoy yourself not drag yourself around places u can do that anywhere just keep a hand winch handy
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:06 pm
				by toughnut
				If it's a choice of a winch or 2 lockers, why don't you fit one locker and buy a good second hand winch. You can get a good warn 9000lb for the price of one locker. Then save up and get the other locker.... Just like scotto said 

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:43 pm
				by ludacris
				Go lockers. A winch can only drag you further into the shit but a mate can pull you out of it.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:12 pm
				by Hoonz
				go lockers ... and get some recovery points ... rated hooks etc and bolt them on good and recovery equipment... and make sure u go wheeling with other people with lockers and good recovery points easier then winching!
i don't run a winch .. manage to nearly always get out of the shit .. unless broken 
  
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:15 am
				by Busiboy
				Lockers seem to have it over winches,
the ' I go out 4x4ing not winching' seems to state it the best though.
I like the rear locker -> winch -> front locker plan too.
Who has a winch and wants to be my best friend  
  
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:32 am
				by Bingham
				Busiboy wrote:Lockers seem to have it over winches,
the ' I go out 4x4ing not winching' seems to state it the best though.
I like the rear locker -> winch -> front locker plan too.
Who has a winch and wants to be my best friend  
  
 
the best conclusion to a thread that ive read. well done....... busiboy!
who wants to go winching this weekend ive put my 31 slicks on and heading out to a big slippery hill!!!! just joking  
  
  
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:36 am
				by Hekta
				Lockers for sure
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:48 am
				by bogged
				shirlz wrote:if you can only afford one at the moment get a winch no matter what situation you are in a winch will get you out (plus the right accessories)
lockers will get you into more trouble than out of more trouble
Well put.
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 12:27 pm
				by berazafi
				I was faced with the same senario and went winch, I will never ever look back, so many tracks have needed it (not just me but twin locked cars), and the guys without winches relied on the guys with winches.  Now thats all good occasionally but i know so many trips that have the statment attached - no winch no go