Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Hi to all , I have an 87 RR and have a delux ARB bar on , but need a winch bar to house a warn 9000 or sim , anyone have a ARB winch bar triping them over in the shed ? Or is there a way to modify my bar ? i have been informed that its not at all posible to modify and would cost more than a winch bar ? I have to counter in the 50mm body lift with the bar .
On another note , i grabbed some Scorpion racing springs [part number SR12] and fitted them on Friday .... made a huge difference to the Kings Springs .... with a 25mm lift over the Kings , very supple off road and great in the travel dept .

Thanx in advance

Don't think it would be that hard to hack a winch mount into a standard ARB bar - we've done it into a non-ARB bar before. Essentially the winch needs a strong tub that holds the winch facing the right way, stops it rotating under load and transfers the loads back to the chassis. The rest of the bar is ornamental really. You could alter the bar mounts to compensate for the 50mm lift at the same time. Here's our hack on the bodgerover:
http://home.off-road.com/~bodgerover/bodgebar.htm

That's what free gets you, if you paid someone it might even look nice!

I also have a standard ARB on mine...after seeing the pics the other day I have started hacking into mine with the grinder...... looks easy enough...


Did you re-inforce the winch cradle with channel or just weld plates on ?

We used a degree of overkill...we welded plates over the existing bar on the front and then braced it back with vertical brackets back to the chassis rails - both sides of each chassis rail, then put a plate across the bottom and reinforced the recovery points.
It didn't help that our number one welder makes structural trusses for buildings... we had a hard time convincing him that anything less than 10mm was strong enough...
The main thing to get right is the transfer of load back to the chassis. The winch will be pulling forward - and up/down - and sideways. You can also make some decent recovery points while you're there - the standard ones on the ARB bars bend a bit quickly.
You also need to have a lip or plate on the front plate to stop the winch just bending it. The Warn diagrams shows a 180 degree lip on the top plate above the roller fairlead. We just added a horizontal plate to hold the fairlead and that has been through a winch challenge OK.

thanks for that...
it looked like you cut the centre out the bar and welded the plates across the front...but now that you explained it, I can see looking at the pics. what you have done...

8) an excellent job...