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6hp motor on 10000lb ?
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:24 am
by Not For Highway Use
Has anyone done it? Did it work well?
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:36 am
by RoldIT
Yep.
I think bundyrum4x4 had it setup. Apparently pulls long and hard.
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:46 am
by Toy80Diesel
RoldIT wrote:Yep.
I think bundyrum4x4 had it setup. Apparently pulls long and hard.
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And how good is the winch???
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:15 am
by morkz
alot of poeple are doing this
its an actual upgrade from ateco so i have been told
you can even do a 8000 high mount with 6hp motor.
the motor had a lot more power and hence doestn work as hard and can work for longer before heating up.
worth the extra 5-$600 in the winch upgrade
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:04 am
by bogged
morkz wrote:alot of poeple are doing this
its an actual upgrade from ateco so i have been told
you can even do a 8000 high mount with 6hp motor.
the motor had a lot more power and hence doestn work as hard and can work for longer before heating up.
worth the extra 5-$600 in the winch upgrade
What mods do u need to do to fit it though? Is it a direct bolt up?
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:12 am
by RoldIT
I understand it's a direct bolt up but I could be wrong.
I haven't heard anything about a "kit", just new/replacement motors.
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:25 am
by bundyrum4x4
I did the mod to my 10,000 WARN low mount about 12 months ago. Compared to my old 2.5hp motor it pulled harder but also cooler. We had a vehicle recovery day a while ago. Basicaly I spent the day winching wrecks out of the scrub onto trailers. During one long winch of a commo up a steep hill, I thought the winch would need a cool down. On inspection it was only just warm, very different to the old 2.5 motor!
I hve just fitted this same 6hp motor to my new high mount, tested on the weekend and I am realy happy - It pulls like a 16 year old on prom night
Yes, it does bolt on with no mods to the winch required, but, its alot longer then the old motor so you will have to check it will fit in your bar.
Now the free plug. I can get you these motors if you wish, $560 each, and fit if required.
Call me 03 59954325 or send a pm if interested.
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:29 am
by bogged
bundyrum4x4 wrote:but, its alot longer then the old motor .
any chance of measurements?? Mines a tightish fit now..
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:36 am
by bundyrum4x4
bogged wrote:bundyrum4x4 wrote:but, its alot longer then the old motor .
any chance of measurements?? Mines a tightish fit now..
195mm for the motor only. It will fit a GQ ARB bar with a little mod to the bar.
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:41 am
by bundyrum4x4
Some pics with it on my old 10,000
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:49 am
by bogged
bundyrum4x4 wrote:Some pics with it on my old 10,000
It appears to be just that extra bit 1in or so longer?
Cheers for the photoeees
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:34 am
by Davidh
Then i'd assume the 6hp motor would also bolt straight onto an XD9000?
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:49 am
by bundyrum4x4
Davidh wrote:Then i'd assume the 6hp motor would also bolt straight onto an XD9000?
Yep
But be aware, it pulls harder and cooler but not faster under no load so it does not transform your low mount into a highmount. But is does meant you wont be needing a snatch block as often
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One other thing, be carefull of what your winch cable can handle! On my 10,000 I had the heavy duty cable that they fit to the 12,000 and 15,000 winches so it could handle the extra pulling power. If you fit it to a winch that the cable is already near max capacity, you may end up breaking cables.
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:25 pm
by p76rangie
As stated by Bundyrum, be careful that you do not turn your 9,000lb winch into a 11,000lb winch and your cable brakes. You should check the gearing in your current winch to that of new Warn winches with the 6hp motor to determine what it might be transformed into. There are virtually no bull bars designed for the 6HP motor size. Had to move my mounts amount 30mm across to get it to fit, but I did have plenty of clearance for the old winch. The measurements for the motor are on
www.warn.com
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:43 pm
by ludacris
If you have the old High Mount you have to modify the key way lock to a cog.
LudaCris
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:53 pm
by Bluey
ludacris wrote:If you have the old High Mount you have to modify the key way lock to a cog.
LudaCris
sorry, can you please explain this
have old himount and interested in upgrading to this 6hp motor at some stage, do i need to make other mods?
Cheers
Lance
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 5:09 pm
by morkz
bogged wrote:What mods do u need to do to fit it though? Is it a direct bolt up?
yes its simple bolt on upgrade
but you would have already read this by now
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 5:30 pm
by sparky
Haven't used it yet but I have a Highmount which I put a 6hp motor on which has been modified for 24v.
Most comp cars are runninh these.
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:20 pm
by ludacris
Where your free spool pull out knob is. Pull it out and then undo all three bolts. Be very carefull when you pull it of not to drop the key way into the internals. That is what has to be modified. Ring MMM after the weekend and he can price you on the conversion or parts for the conversion.
LudaCris
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:22 am
by morkz
sparky wrote:Haven't used it yet but I have a Highmount which I put a 6hp motor on which has been modified for 24v.
Most comp cars are runninh these.
that must be fast as......
didnt think 24v worked well i heard of guys doing it with 4.6hp and constantly blowing motors up
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:51 am
by turps
morkz wrote:sparky wrote:Haven't used it yet but I have a Highmount which I put a 6hp motor on which has been modified for 24v.
Most comp cars are runninh these.
that must be fast as......
didnt think 24v worked well i heard of guys doing it with 4.6hp and constantly blowing motors up
From what I heard the 4.6 motor wasnt a good motor to start off. Rumour was some competitors went back to the 2.5hp motor as it worked better.
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:59 am
by bogged
turps wrote:Rumour was some competitors went back to the 2.5hp motor as it worked better.
there you go starting rumours again...
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:21 pm
by turps
bogged wrote:turps wrote:Rumour was some competitors went back to the 2.5hp motor as it worked better.
there you go starting rumours again...
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I did not start that rumour, I just kept it going.
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:35 pm
by morkz
aint no rumour alot of compeititors who run 24v are running the old 2.5h motor.
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:09 pm
by sparky
morkz wrote:aint no rumour alot of compeititors who run 24v are running the old 2.5h motor.
and a lot are running the 6hp as I think it is alot stronger than the 4.6.
But if you keep winching when the motor is about to stall you will kill any of them.