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4agze in a vitara? is this possible?

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 6:20 pm
by SiKiD_01
well seeing as my motor has sorta kicked the bucket, i was looking around for another motor. i came across a 4agze supercharged in a RWD corolla.

i doubt this is a simple transplant, as i now have a 8 valve carby. i want to keep the 4wd, so i was thionking about the 4agze, a gear box, and maybe a sierra transfer, as they are seperate. with this, i know custom tailshafts and a cradle for the transfer will need to be made.

is there a bell housing adapter for a 4agze to the zook gearbox? or is it custom?

the 4agze has computer and fuel pumps and everything else. i might need to change my fuel tank too? i'm not too sure about any of this, and hopefully someone on here will be able to help me out.

am i getting too far ahead of myself? should i just rebuilt my 1.6? i have no idea about costing either. (call me a newb... :roll: )

thanks
Steve

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 6:51 pm
by -Mick-
If you can't do it yourself forget it. The cost for a fully custom job like that would be horrendous :shock: I got quoted between 4 and 7 k to put one in a sierra and that was me supplying the bloody motor etc :?

You would need to use the toy gbox ;)

xzczx

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 8:36 pm
by SiKiD_01
ok, so why dont i just chuck that idea out the window.

someone also said that i should use a 1.6L swift head on my vit engine. i have an 8 Valve, and the swift is a 16V.

so another question, is there such a car as a Suzuki Swift 1.6L 16Valve CARBY ???

they also mentioned something about having to modify the dizzy to suit? i myself have not heard of the 1.6 carby version swift, but i may be wrong.

thanks
Steve

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 6:52 am
by Gonzo
I missed somthing, you blew up the motor ???

Welcome to the club :lol:

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:06 pm
by Rotazuk
There is a swift 16v carby around , I have one in the shed . If you don't want to go efi it would be an easy swap . Alas the dissy sticks straight out but I have heard the cam and dissy of the16v corrects this and that a mazda 1.6 turbo dissy also sorts that out . Have not looked into that though .

Chris

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 2:51 pm
by SiKiD_01
thats right gonzo, did it about 2 weeks ago. dont know exactly what it is yet, as i haven't had time to upull it apart. but there was engine oil all over the engine bay when i got home. (and all over the driveway)

and thanks for that rotazuk.

ok, we know that there are 16v carby swifts, and so if i find one, or just the motor, how will it fit up to the vitara gearbox? i doubt its a bolt on job, but if it is possible, maybe i could just drop in a swift 16v motor in?

i guess i'll have some researching to do. i hate wreckers, especially when they dont have what you want. such is life.

thanks
Steve

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:21 pm
by Rotazuk
HI
Its the same block , ie g16 etc so I am picking its just like the 1.3 from swifts etc . Swap over sump engine mounts etc and you are away . If you get serious I can got have a look at the two block and compare them . They are a bit berried and in different sheds but I will get the pic if they are the same , look like it from memory .

Cheers

Chris

fdgsdf

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:34 am
by SiKiD_01
thanks Chris, i will let you know when the time comes, as i'm still looking around for prices and odd bits.

i think i'll have a look at my engine first to see how far the damage extends to.

thanks again
Steve

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 6:47 am
by ZOOK60
Rotazuk wrote:There is a swift 16v carby around , I have one in the shed . If you don't want to go efi it would be an easy swap . Alas the dissy sticks straight out but I have heard the cam and dissy of the16v corrects this and that a mazda 1.6 turbo dissy also sorts that out . Have not looked into that though .

Chris


im am about to do the 16v tbi swap my self tell me more about this mazda dizzy

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:44 am
by Andrew81
I've only had my vitara back on the road for a few weeks now after having the blown head fixed.Around $800 later and it doesn't go any better than before it blew the head. Getting the head fixed and machined up-$330, gaskets-$100, labour $150 (i know the mechanic), all new hoses, belts, oil, coolant,etc-over $200. It adds up pretty quick!

I looked into conversions a bit at the time but unless you know what you're doing and can do it all yourself or know a mechanic prepared to do a lot of work on your car for nothing forget it.

The swift 1.6 carby might be a good cheap option. No idea if it bolts up though.

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 6:47 pm
by Rotazuk
From what I have been told a dissy of a turbo 1.6 mazda about an 86 dohc is a bent dissy and fits . Alas have not gone looking for one yet so not sure on this .

im am about to do the 16v tbi swap my self tell me more about this mazda dizzy[/quote]

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:15 pm
by ZOOK60
mazda dizzy 323 gtx

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:01 am
by cj
I know the 323GTX has been used in a DOHC swap but the cap and rotor needed some slight mods to fit. That looks like the photo from that swap.

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:07 am
by ZOOK60
cj wrote:I know the 323GTX has been used in a DOHC swap but the cap and rotor needed some slight mods to fit. That looks like the photo from that swap.

yes your right the question is will it work on the 1.6????