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not a 4x4 related tech q, but a car related tech q

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2003 6:27 pm
by robbie
aye guys

I heard something funny today..

a friends excel had a timing belt changed on it, and the mechanic told her that the car will run funny because the belt is tight..

well I drove the car and it feels like the cam timing is retarded a tooth. its also popping out the exhaust like there is unburnt fuel (another eg of the retarded timing). the car is a slug till about 4-5,000rpm.

what do you guys think?

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2003 6:50 pm
by RUFF
Belt being tight is a load of crap.
It sounds to me like he farked up and is trying to convince someone that knows SFA that its all good.
Take it back and tell him to fix it. With a new belt there is never any slugishness because the belt is tight. It actually cant be tighter than it should be because the tensioner takes care of how tight it needs to be.

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2003 7:58 pm
by Dozoor
I agree with ruff ,If its popping and going on robbie ,then it'll eat the valve seats . get it fixed before its fugged. :?

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2003 9:41 pm
by OVERKILL ENG
Take it back or it will burn the valves and then tell the mechanic to get Fucked and find a NEW mechanic :x

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2003 9:42 pm
by DAZZ
Yep, valve timing is out, and by more then a tooth. Get it fixed before it craps its self.....

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2003 1:34 am
by robbie
thanks guys, its getting fixed up asap

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2003 11:17 am
by CRUSHU
i hope there wasn't any ticking sounds from the top of the enging for the first few hours, as the valves tap on the top of the pistons! i hope this guy was not in a business, just a backyarder, otherwise he deserves to be named, so we all know where not to go.

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2003 1:01 pm
by robbie
there wouldn't be ticking sounds, there would be thuds.. and you only get this on dohc engines I think

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2003 1:11 pm
by RUFF
robbie wrote:there wouldn't be ticking sounds, there would be thuds.. and you only get this on dohc engines I think


No this is not right as a gemini with a 30/70 cam getting valve bounced will actually cause the valves to just touch the pistons enough to leave marks but not usually bend valves.

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2003 4:54 pm
by robbie
ahh ok, fair enough

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2003 5:54 pm
by Punchy
yeah nasty stuff there

the sonata's and the like with the bitsamissin engine etc and 24 valve jobbies are so easy to stuff up if you dont pay particular attention to them.

but a grubby old excell...ffs..the guys and amature if he got that wrong...FFS

take it back and have him fix it