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Muddy starter motors

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:26 pm
by -Scott-
One muddy puddle with deeper ruts than expected, and now my starter motor is on strike. :bad-words: I gave it a flogging :twisted: and it got me home, but I'm guessing it needs attention. :?

Searching here suggests this is a common problem, and a good clean should see me right for a while, but I'm wondering if anybody has considered making mods to stop this happening?

First thing to my mind is run a line from my air compressor into the top of the starter motor, and blow air in the top and let it out the bottom. But I haven't pulled it out yet, so I don't know if this is feasible.

Any other thoughts? I'm very pissed off tha one muddy puddle has stuffed it - it wasn't even thick mud. :bad-words:

Cheers,

Scott

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 8:04 pm
by PajeroSRV
I think a number of people have replaced the forward facing mitsu starter motor with a backward facing Nissan one. This should alleviate the problem.

It's on my list of mods anyway. :D

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:46 am
by -Scott-
??? I've never heard of this - tell me more!

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:45 pm
by dinos4x4
i dont see how that can work , what are going to do cut a chunk out of the bellhousing

If you are going through mud hole you have to expect mud to get into everything e.g starter motors, brackes and clutches

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:28 am
by J Top
You can and should seal the bell housing as L/R and Nissan do,
{not that anything is truely sealed in a L/R}.
A bead of silicone arround the fork boot and the bell housing face and a breather tube or low air pressure.
Through auto electrians I have purchased sealed, {or more sealed } starters for Chevs to extend their lives.
J Top

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:08 pm
by Bitsamissin
I've just replaced mine with a new one (2nd one in 5 years) and I drive a lot of mud.
There is a generic brand (Mando) which fits a 3.0V6 I get them new for $200 from a friendly auto eleccy.
Being foward facing they cop the slop and there is not a hell of a lot you can do about it. I know guys who have covered their's entirely with silicon and just ran a breather to high up in the engine bay.
I haven't worried too much about it as $400 in 5 years for basically a consumable (for the mud that I drive) is acceptable.
I'm a bit more careful nowadays only driving the slop if I have to.

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:13 pm
by PajeroSRV
NJ Swb - Unfortunately I don't know HOW to do it....I just know that is has been done...which I am sure is really a shite load of help to you :D

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:33 pm
by J Top
You can't need a new starter yet Frank, because I'm sure if your vehicle was driving we would all have seen PICs by now.
J Top

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:38 am
by -Scott-
Picked up the starter this morning: cleaned, machined commutator, new brushes, reassemble and test for $165. Thought it was a little steep, but it's better than $200! :D And I still have my original starter motor, for what that's worth. :?

The auto sparky suggested the bulk of the crap could have come in through the bell housing. :shock: I'm wondering if my slipping clutch is related to the oil leak I discovered on the weekend, and if that could have been caused by a belly-full of muddy water? :cry:

The joys of wheeling. :D

Scott