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36 or 38 TSL Swampers

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 12:49 am
by cbr
I am looking at getting new meats for the runner. I currently have 35" BFG's and am looking for some off-road tyres. I run rs44044 springs on the front with the diff moved forward.

I have narrowed it down to Swampers. MTR's do not suit the WA offroad conditions. So I do not want opions on tyres just size.

So should I go straight to 38's or stick with 36's. I have to make mods to the fenders to fit these, but that does not worry me. IF I get the 36's will I wish I had got the 38's?? I know the 38's are really only 37" tall so it's not that much off a difference.

What do you think???

Chris.

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 10:34 am
by Wooders
38x12.5 TSL's?
Definately :twisted:

Although there's absolutely nothing wrong with the 36x12.5 TSL's either ...but if you got the room, why not run the bigger size :idea:

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 1:21 pm
by cbr
The only thing stopping me is the extra cost and more work to make them fit. I can them to fit it is just having to cut the guards.

Chris

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 2:14 pm
by spazbot
id go 36's unless you have lots of spare cvs etc etc or longfields

do you use the rig onroad (daily driver ) aswell, cause dont forget swampers aint road legal

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 6:05 pm
by POS
Yeh you will need to get longfields before you run the 38's.

I broke 5 Cv's in the space of 5 months running 35 boggers.

I threw in a set of longs and never had a problem until i broke a front axle and blew me lokka.

All this on 35's.

I have now gone to 38.5 baja claws but with plans of beefing up the running gear.

38.5 claws could be another option, fairly cheap for the size.

They measure around about 40 inches.

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 6:25 pm
by cbr
spazbot wrote:id go 36's unless you have lots of spare cvs etc etc or longfields

do you use the rig onroad (daily driver ) aswell, cause dont forget swampers aint road legal


Not really a Daily driver, but I will be using my current 35 BFG on the road on the swampers for trail use.


Chris

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 6:27 pm
by cbr
POS wrote:Yeh you will need to get longfields before you run the 38's.

I broke 5 Cv's in the space of 5 months running 35 boggers.

I threw in a set of longs and never had a problem until i broke a front axle and blew me lokka.

All this on 35's.

I have now gone to 38.5 baja claws but with plans of beefing up the running gear.

38.5 claws could be another option, fairly cheap for the size.

They measure around about 40 inches.


I do plan on getting longfields, but you do you have a point about blowing CV's. Plus I have a V8 so this is not going to help :lol:

Chris.

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Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:17 pm
by hypo
i wood probly go the 38's coz its like buyin a set off 33's as soon as u do ya first run u wish u had gone bigger

Re: ..

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 9:14 pm
by POS
hypolux wrote:i wood probly go the 38's coz its like buyin a set off 33's as soon as u do ya first run u wish u had gone bigger


Oh sh*t yeh, defently get the 38's, but be prepared for plenty of busted cv's or axles or worse diffs.

After the first couple i ended up making a special tool kit just for changing cv's and axles.

It would also be a good idea to price some heavy duty axles aswell as the long's.

36 or 38 !!

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 10:25 pm
by moose
also take into consideration GEARING !!!!
crawl ratio will be affected dramatically , going up from 35,s to 38,s !!! :o

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 10:29 pm
by MissDrew
One thing to look at before buying big meats is if you want to do comps and if so what comps? As a lot of them have a tyre size limit of 36 x 12.5. The outback challenge is one of these as is most of the vicy comps and that is why I want go any bigger then 36`s. I myself want 37 x 13 boggers. I know you are in WA its just something for you to look at before handing out big $$$

Re: 36 or 38 !!

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2002 1:53 am
by cbr
moose wrote:also take into consideration GEARING !!!!
crawl ratio will be affected dramatically , going up from 35,s to 38,s !!! :o


I have a v8, 4.88 ratio's and a crawler adapter sitting right besides me and willl be picking up another transfer case tomorrow :) So that should be ok, for now!!

Chris

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2002 1:57 am
by cbr
Guts wrote:One thing to look at before buying big meats is if you want to do comps and if so what comps? As a lot of them have a tyre size limit of 36 x 12.5. The outback challenge is one of these as is most of the vicy comps and that is why I want go any bigger then 36`s. I myself want 37 x 13 boggers. I know you are in WA its just something for you to look at before handing out big $$$


The comps here in WA don't seem to have any tyre size limits in Open class. I don't see myself traveling cross country to do comps. The fuel bill would kill me :lol:

Chris.

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2002 11:10 am
by Wooders
Sounds like you've already made you're mind up - butseriously if you get 36"s aren't you going to start thinking 38"s within the first week.....I say just do it now & be done with it...

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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2002 4:07 pm
by hypo
other thing 2 is if u get 38's and dont like them u can sell them and getter smaller. them it wont b a big hit 2 the wallet the second time round

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2002 10:09 pm
by dave
i dont no what your truck flexes like but if its got any up travlel you will make a mess of the rear gaurds, 35in MTR just tuches front and back of rear gaurds. if i went any bigger id have to do some major fender triming. its all right for all these tray back lux blokes

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2002 10:16 pm
by RUFF
Yeah i have to agrea with Dave on this as Nick just tried to fit #7MTRs under his and there is no chance of them stuffing up in the rear guards without some major body mods.

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2002 11:55 pm
by cbr
RUFF wrote:Yeah i have to agrea with Dave on this as Nick just tried to fit #7MTRs under his and there is no chance of them stuffing up in the rear guards without some major body mods.


You are right about the rear guards, they are small and serious mods are needed.

The plan is to cut the front and rear guards and bob the rear end. So I will be doing some serious body mods.

BTW what is the best price you guys can get for:
36 x 12.5 x 15
38 x 12.5 x 15

Chris

kindaa off the topic

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2002 6:16 am
by hypo
Kinda not realated 2 this post but ill ask ya anyway.

Chris did u have 2 do much work 2 get tha 35's 2 fit in the front and not scrub with the 44044's ?? as i ordered a set yesty and wanna know if i should start doin anywork on the guards now ??

Re: ..

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2002 7:58 am
by bj on roids
POS wrote:
hypolux wrote:i wood probly go the 38's coz its like buyin a set off 33's as soon as u do ya first run u wish u had gone bigger


Oh sh*t yeh, defently get the 38's, but be prepared for plenty of busted cv's or axles or worse diffs.

After the first couple i ended up making a special tool kit just for changing cv's and axles.

It would also be a good idea to price some heavy duty axles aswell as the long's.



dont listen to the Hmm, you will break your shit with 36s, OR 38s, JUST AS MUCH

boatlux (pos) was running 35s, and i was running 38s, and i broke a CV half a metre or less before he did, pretty much the same spot, SOOO i think FAWK IT and go with the 38s

suck it up!! the 38s aren't in real terms, that much bigger than a 35 either, and dont get those GAY 12.5s, you want at LEAST 14.5

ok cool!!

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2002 8:01 am
by bj on roids
agreed a tyre size limit would be annoying!!!

Re: kindaa off the topic

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2002 3:52 pm
by cbr
hypolux wrote:Kinda not realated 2 this post but ill ask ya anyway.

Chris did u have 2 do much work 2 get tha 35's 2 fit in the front and not scrub with the 44044's ?? as i ordered a set yesty and wanna know if i should start doin anywork on the guards now ??


I moved the axle foward by re-drilling the spring perch. Then I hammed in the seem. No rubbing. But my 35's really are only about 33.5" - 34" tall :twisted:

Obviously I have cross over steering for this to work.


Chris.

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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2002 10:28 pm
by hypo
SWEET

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2002 8:30 am
by tjpete
Blokes,

The best deals on MTR's are from Bob Dunn at Goodyear Kedron. Tell him TJPete sent ya.

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2002 8:31 am
by tjpete
Go for the 38.

Re: kindaa off the topic

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:48 pm
by bogged
so did you get th shits with WA's road laws you moved to London?
and what did you go in the end
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:54 pm
by Slunnie
This was 6 years ago Bogged. :lol:

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:22 pm
by Twistinchassie
im in a similar state of mind, 4runner with tg 5in springs, maybe 2in body lift "dont really believe in BL) but currently running 35's and want either 37's or 38's, however have you taken into accout when /if you tear the sidewall out of one, there goes $500 + if u dont have lockers go them first, ive seen trucks with fuck all mods bar F+R air lockers, out wheel unlocked bigrubber big flex rigs..

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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:15 pm
by sloshy
POS wrote:Yeh you will need to get longfields before you run the 38's.
I broke 5 Cv's in the space of 5 months running 35 boggers.
I threw in a set of longs and never had a problem until i broke a front axle and blew me lokka.
Don't waste your time with 27 spliners just go the 30 spline super set straight up and eliminate those piss weak axles ;)

I found out the hard way aswell :x

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:52 am
by bogged
Slunnie wrote:This was 6 years ago Bogged. :lol:
:rofl: :armsup: :rofl: