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help on pulling engine from vitara?

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:36 pm
by SiKiD_01
i am contemplating taking the engine out of my vitara to do some work on it. i dont think i need to now, but may need to later on in near future, so i'm trying to decide whether to do it now or later.

i was wondering if anyone could give me a descent rundown for taking the motor out. whats more difficult, and what to watch out for.

i have an 8 valve carby 1600cc, no air con, no power steering, and not much to it really.

if i drop the gear box out, and take off the extractors, and intake manifold, disconnect any vacuum and brake lines, and all the other cables, i should be right, right?

i dont have a shop manual..... yet, but is this about it? how many engine mounts are there?

should i leave the gearbox on and pull it all out together? what about the radiator?

i sorry for the silly questions, its just that i've been working flat out to get more money to fix it up, so i haven't had a great deal of time to go and take a good look.

any help, advice, and tips would be greatly appreciated.
thanks
Steve

p.s, if i do pull the engine out, should i upgrade the clutch? i'm guessing 99% will say yes, and so, what type to use, and who's using what?

thanks again.

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:41 pm
by nicbeer
Should be two engine mounts. hooks should be installed on the head at the front and at rear somewhere (can't remember where) to lift by.

Pbr or centerforce upgraded clutch would be good to use.

thanks

Nic

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:43 pm
by antt
cant give ya any exact points, but if ya dont get a shop manual, mark every hose and wire etc. so ya can put it back together....even if u do get a manual, mark everything anyway

taking pictures as ya pull it out can help too when it comes to puttin it back together

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:12 pm
by Beastmavster
You can pull the engine without pulling the box. on the whole it'll be an easier job that way.

You might want to think about replacing the clutch while it's out, especially with a heavier duty one. It's a big job to do twice unnecessarily.... as I found out.

da

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:49 pm
by SiKiD_01
Beastmavster wrote:You can pull the engine without pulling the box. on the whole it'll be an easier job that way.

You might want to think about replacing the clutch while it's out, especially with a heavier duty one. It's a big job to do twice unnecessarily.... as I found out.


do i just unbolt the g/box and slide the engine forward and out?
will i need to drop out the radiator?

and roughly how much for a HD clutch?

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:52 pm
by SiKiD_01
and how can ANTT with 7028 posts, and BEASTMAVSTER with 2079 posts, both be ROCK GODS?

is being a rock god the ultimate?

:?

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:30 pm
by mud4b
pull the radiator out.... with no air or steer it will be simple...

unbolt the 4 bolts on the box (dont forget the cover plate...2 10 mm bolts
and leave the clutch cable ...unless you are replacing the clutch...)unbolt the starter.

unbolt the 3 bolts either side of the engine for the mounts...
dissconnect the loom and heater hoses and the clutch cable from the support bracket ,accel cable and slide the engine forward...

Re: da

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:36 pm
by Beastmavster
SiKiD_01 wrote:
Beastmavster wrote:You can pull the engine without pulling the box. on the whole it'll be an easier job that way.

You might want to think about replacing the clutch while it's out, especially with a heavier duty one. It's a big job to do twice unnecessarily.... as I found out.


do i just unbolt the g/box and slide the engine forward and out?
will i need to drop out the radiator?

and roughly how much for a HD clutch?


Pull out the radiator. Only 2 bolts hold it in and it's very expensive to replace it if you accidentally bump into it with the water pump.

Means you need less hands to hold the engine when it finally comes loose - it will probably need some encouragement due to time and rust if nothing else.

The engine will easily slide out with the gearbox and transfer case still in place. Getting at a couple of the bolts holding it all together will be hard, but much easier than pulling the gearbox out and putting it back in.

Much easier to align again too.

A heavy duty clutch should be $200-300 for the complete kit. Or you could speak to someone at a clutch shop up there (should be a PGR or something like that). They may be able to make something up.

At the very least replacing the friction plate and thrust bearing would be sensible if you're about 200,000kms, but that will cost you about as much as a full aftermarket clutch kit anyway.

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:58 pm
by antt
SiKiD_01 wrote:and how can ANTT with 7028 posts, and BEASTMAVSTER with 2079 posts, both be ROCK GODS?

is being a rock god the ultimate?

:?


yeah, there aint nothing above rock god, unless ya nice to ruff, or piss him off :D ....and he'll change it to something else