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Trail Tough Crawler Gears?

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:40 pm
by alien
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http://www.trailtough.com/transfercase_driveshaft.htm

Thats the Trailtough 4.9:1 Transfer Gears... 115% reduction in low range and 16% reduction in high range.

I'm soon to fit 31's and was looking at doing SOMETHING about my gears as cheap as possible and thought this was a pretty awesome deal at roughly $750AU.

What do you guys reckon?

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:15 pm
by Podge
How much homework have you done? Is $750.00AUD with or without freight duty and GST? If it isn't you'll have to take this into account.

Another aspect of the yank reduction gears is that it is good that they come with the gaskets, oil seals, countershaft and washers, but it is stupid only having the 2x countershaft needle rollers. Whilst they are the most important bearings to be replaced in the transfer case, you may as well replace all of the bearings whilst it's apart. Hence you really need a full bearing/seal kit if the job is going to be done properly.

Maybe the Rockhopper-II should have been released. This would have been a 135% low range-19% high range reduction. Very suitable for 31's.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:54 am
by alien
yeah i forgot GST and Shipping etc... hmm

well as i see it my choices are pretty much:

Rockhopper Series 3. (22% Hi Range Reduction, 170% low range reduction)

Trail Tough 4.9:1 Transfer Gears. (16% High Range Reduction, 115% low range reduction)

Asian Auto Parts 4.9:1 Transfer Gears. (18% High Range Reduction, 181% low range reduction)

Calmini 5.14:1 Transfer Gears. (18.3% High Range Reduction, 127% low range reduction)

Looks like this is gonna take some serious researching... can anyone give opinions on best bang for buck?

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:50 am
by duncan
Looking at this myself Calmini 6.5s are $695 at the momment but after emailing them you need to add $135 for shipping both of these prices are in US dollars but they wont accept pay pal or credit card payments .The only way to pay is with a bank wire transfer which will cost you a extra $55 aussie on top and the grand total is $1105 aussie dollars useing yesterdays exchange rate of 79 cents .Is the small saving of $144 dollars worth the hassle of trying to get all the info to send them the money then waitning for shipping to your door or just go local big balls and calmini both give no warrenty on there products.Oh and big balls stil has no 6.1 in stock yet ive been waiting for 3 weeks now still no word.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:01 am
by alien
Theres a calmini dealer in bayswater isnt there? Might just call and see what he can offer...

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:01 am
by ca18escort
Trail Tough 4.9:1 Transfer Gears. (16% High Range Reduction, 115% low range reduction)

Asian Auto Parts 4.9:1 Transfer Gears. (18% High Range Reduction, 181% low range reduction)


Is anyone else curious as to why these gears that are both suposed to be 4.9:1 have got different percentages ofr both high and low range reduction????

Paul

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:29 pm
by Damo
ca18escort wrote:Trail Tough 4.9:1 Transfer Gears. (16% High Range Reduction, 115% low range reduction)

Asian Auto Parts 4.9:1 Transfer Gears. (18% High Range Reduction, 181% low range reduction)


Is anyone else curious as to why these gears that are both suposed to be 4.9:1 have got different percentages ofr both high and low range reduction????

Paul


Yup!!!

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:04 pm
by alien
yeah i noticed this also... one of them is maybe 4.99:1 and the other 4.90:1

..maybe...

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:36 pm
by Mczook
G'day Guys

This is my 2 cent worth & chance to pimp myself, it would be good to see you guys supporting small businesses in Oz like Matts (M&M Custom 4x4), Sam (Overkill Engineering) and myself, rather than giving money to big US companies Sam & I offer 4.9 & 5.14:1. Hopefully we offer more than just good pricing.

So when considering your options we can help & mix it with the best of them. For info I have two 5.14:1 in stock ready to be ordered.
;)

Cheers,

Sean Lee
ABT 4x4
+61 2 6291 5994 ph
+61 2 6291 7286 fax
abtmaster@abt4x4.com
www.abt4x4.com

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:11 pm
by jtraf
Price on these gears?????

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:39 pm
by alien
hell yeah - gimme a price on 5.14's! thats 20% reduction yeah?

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:57 pm
by ca18escort
I would love a price on the 5.14's also I am just looking for an excuse to buy a set.

Paul

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:03 pm
by DeWsE
ca18escort wrote:I would love a price on the 5.14's also I am just looking for an excuse to buy a set.

Paul


Ill give you an excuse....you have 32's and no gearing.....will that do

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:48 pm
by redzook
check here for a pricing http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=36789

3 threads all on the same thing :shock:

dosent no one read or look in other threads?

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:15 pm
by Midget
MC

are these the CALMINI gears??,Thats what i heard of matt last time i was talking to him...

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:32 pm
by jtraf
redzook where does it have the price for 5.14 Gears????

I can't see it.......


redzook wrote:check here for a pricing http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=36789

3 threads all on the same thing :shock:

dosent no one read or look in other threads?

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:49 am
by duncan
Alien yes Eddie at 4x4USA is a Calmini dealer but unless you want to pay way more than anywhere else dont bother the guy is over priced and has no people skills at all when dealing with customers

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 5:10 am
by redzook
jtraf wrote:redzook where does it have the price for 5.14 Gears????

I can't see it.......


redzook wrote:check here for a pricing http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=36789

3 threads all on the same thing :shock:

dosent no one read or look in other threads?


it dosent have the price of 5.14's. but sam brings them in a fair bit
he actually runs the 5.14's in his rig

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:17 am
by Mczook
jtraf wrote:Price on these gears?????


G'day Fellas

The 5.14 & 4.16: 1 Calmini gears that are in stock are $1,295 & $1,150 repectively including packaging & freight to your door ;) . They include the gears, bearings, washers, counter shaft, gaskets & oil :cool: .

Cheers,

Sean Lee

ABT 4x4
+61 2 6291 5994 ph
+61 2 6291 7286 fax
abtmaster@abt4x4.com
www.abt4x4.com – full online purchasing website coming soon!

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:24 am
by ca18escort
And there in lies my problem. I have allready rebuilt my transfercase so I don't really want to spend extra money on a kit that has the shaft bearing and gaskets I just want the gears. I don't spose you would be willing to separate???


DeWse,
Tell me about the 32" with std gearing went for a wheel on tuesday afternoon.........not fun on some of it when you have to carry that much speed. I would much rather crawl over stuff than hit it at speed. I have got a couple of trips away with work over the next couple of months so i am just trying to decide if I should do it now or wait till I get back around June.

Paul

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:17 pm
by alien
USA 4WD in Bayswater (Perth) can do 5.14 Transfer gears (18.3% high range reduction) for $1080!

AWEEESSOOOOMMMME

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:21 pm
by DeWsE
alien wrote:USA 4WD in Bayswater (Perth) can do 5.14 Transfer gears (18.3% high range reduction) for $1080!

AWEEESSOOOOMMMME


Push eddie for a lower price, shane did and it worked....but he spends thousands there

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:36 pm
by Mczook
ca18escort wrote:And there in lies my problem. I have allready rebuilt my transfercase so I don't really want to spend extra money on a kit that has the shaft bearing and gaskets I just want the gears. I don't spose you would be willing to separate???


DeWse,
Tell me about the 32" with std gearing went for a wheel on tuesday afternoon.........not fun on some of it when you have to carry that much speed. I would much rather crawl over stuff than hit it at speed. I have got a couple of trips away with work over the next couple of months so i am just trying to decide if I should do it now or wait till I get back around June.

Paul


I thought you were looking for an excuse, sounds to me you are talking yourself out of it ;) . You will use most of the kit most of the kit and the items you dont will be spares. You could also make money out of it by selling your rebuilt one and get another to put your gears in, but thats only if you have an excuse to do so :D ;)

Cheers Sean

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 7:45 pm
by built4thrashing
Asian Auto Parts 4.9:1 Transfer Gears. (18% High Range Reduction, 181% low range reduction)


these sound interesting as it gives 181% in low range but only 18% in high. perfect for 31s

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:20 pm
by DAZZ
So will an 18%reduction in high range correct the gearing for 31s (RPM @ 100km\h)??? Have been trying to work out the gearing difference and have gotten my calculations wrong. :oops:

This is for a 90 SWB with stock gearing and 31s...

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:38 pm
by ca18escort
Sean,
You are right....it has been a budget build so far and being the tight arse that I am I am having trouble parting will over $1000 for gear that I know I really need. I guess I will just have to bite the bullet and do it. It would certainly help if I could sell that bloddy Triton though :roll:

Paul

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:15 pm
by ZOOK60
built4thrashing wrote:Asian Auto Parts 4.9:1 Transfer Gears. (18% High Range Reduction, 181% low range reduction)


these sound interesting as it gives 181% in low range but only 18% in high. perfect for 31s

tell me how a 4.9:1 gearset can give 180% in low range??????????????

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:33 pm
by alien
because the low range gears change as well as high range ones.. right/

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:35 pm
by redzook
alien wrote:because the low range gears change as well as high range ones.. right/


4.9:1 is the low range

they are saying that is as low as a 6.129:1 rockhopper

can u do the math?

obviously there is a mistake there somewhere

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:16 am
by Mczook
alien wrote:USA 4WD in Bayswater (Perth) can do 5.14 Transfer gears (18.3% high range reduction) for $1080!

AWEEESSOOOOMMMME


Fuc$#@! :shock: that is cheap, he is not making money on that, I am interested to know if he has them in stock at that price or are they on some cantainer somewhere. Obviously Calmini is giving him a lot of luving so if I was in the market I would take advantage of that price ;)