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Picked up RR from auto elec Saturday morning.
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 2:50 pm
by HSV Rangie
Does this thing move out
very impressive. All that was wanted and more.
Now just have to refit interior, hood lining etc and new stereo.
Next is drive line upgrade: hilux diff centres 4.3-1, jac mac axles and t/case from 84-5 auto. change high range from 1.192-1 to 1.003-1.
Ratio changes allow good road speed/revs while lowering crawl speed, not slow enough but getting there. Other options maxidrive gears or ashcroft crawler box. ( more $$$)
Front and rear links are works in progress.
regards
Michael.
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2002 6:57 am
by Strange Rover
Michael,
What sort of power has that motor got? Should be a big setup from the rover engine and it will probably use about half the fuel.
Sam
PS To load the pic it carnt have any spaces in the file name.
Engine specs
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2002 7:44 am
by HSV Rangie
5.7 litre. 355 ci. Harrop stroked 308.
215 KW @ 4800rpm.
475 nm @ 3600, 400nm available at 1200rpm.
And yes it has much more power, makes over taking a breeze.
performence will only get better as it has only 400k on clock.
Fuel economy will be much better than old 3.5.(expecting around 25mpg+)
regards
Michael.
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2002 7:42 pm
by bobtail
you just can;t beat cubes are you running a auto or 5 speed
Manual 5 speed LT77 (at moment)
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2002 6:36 am
by HSV Rangie
Std 5 speed from the 86. is fitted with HSV clutch and pressure plate.
Michael.
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2002 10:05 pm
by LOCKY
Have to line it up against the Chev when I get it running.
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2002 4:08 pm
by derangedrover
Michael,
You're gunna put 215Kw and bulk torque through an LT77?
Whats plan B when the 77 throws in the towel?
Cheers
Daryl
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2002 5:12 pm
by RUFF
derangedrover wrote:Michael,
You're gunna put 215Kw and bulk torque through an LT77?
Whats plan B when the 77 throws in the towel?
Cheers
Daryl
Yeah i was thinking the same thing as my boss had one in his with a Isuzu Turbo Diesel and it went bang near straight after fitting it and it had been fully recoed.
When LT 77 goes
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2002 6:01 pm
by HSV Rangie
Options Im looking at.
1: R380 cheapest easy fit.
2: Nisan 5 speed expensive.
3: Turbo 700 or ZF.
Yes I expect it to die sooner than later.
Regards
Michael.
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2002 7:41 pm
by v8grunt
GO THE R380. NISSAN 5SP IS A NOISY HEAP OF CRAP. AND THE AUTO UGH DON'T DO IT.
WHAT WILL THE RANGIE WEIGH AFTER ITS ALL FINISHED.
HAVE YOU CHANGED THE CAM SHAFT FROM STD HSV.
GLEN
Cam shaft
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 6:42 am
by HSV Rangie
No at present the engine is as per factory.
I purchased it new (crate engine with computer, clutch, manifolds ETC).
I agree the R380 is looking good also a bolt in fit.
Michael.
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 6:27 pm
by v8grunt
FROM THE POWER FIGURES QUOTED THERE IS NO NEED TO CHANGE, GREAT ENGINE FOR OFF ROAD WORK, IF YOU DONT MIND CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE ENGINE COST.
GLEN
Engine cost.
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 7:29 am
by HSV Rangie
Crate engine from Frankston Holden. $6500.00.
Extras, Airflow meter HSV $150.00(no longer used, using one from LS1 $350.00), Ignition module $175.00, Engine loom $250.00, Engine pully's crank and water pump $75.00.
other supliers:
Other items: 90amp alt new $200.00.
Sump custom made high energy oil pans $450.00 (needed rear pan drop.) Had it made with more capacity windidge tray, crank scraper, trap doors and new pick up.
Custom mounts for alt, powersteer and AC.
Regards
Michael.
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 8:08 pm
by hoops
I'm going for the GQ 5 speed option. I know someone with a supercharged 4.6 with an R380 and it didn't last long!! He has since put a GQ box in with no problems or complaints. Plus its got great 1st gear reduction.
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 8:32 pm
by v8grunt
hoops wrote:I'm going for the GQ 5 speed option. I know someone with a supercharged 4.6 with an R380 and it didn't last long!! He has since put a GQ box in with no problems or complaints. Plus its got great 1st gear reduction.
THATS AN EXPENSIVE WAY TO FIX A PROBLEM, IF AN R380 BREAKS IT'S STUFFED ANYWAY, GOOD R380s DON'T JUST BREAK. JD PUTS OVER 600 REAL HP IN THEM WITHOUT PROBLEMS.
Gear Box
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 6:47 am
by HSV Rangie
Nissan box has great 1st gear would be so good, loose out on overdrive.
The kit used to cost about $1500.00 plus box another 1.5-2K. Are drive shaft changes required.
R380's seem to take the power Ok. but if abused Im sure it will die.
Advantage is it bolts straight in no hassles only problem is 1st gear is high.
Spare no expense fit a NV4500.
Work out what gearing you want, a budget to do the works then move forward.
Regards
Michael.
Re: Gear Box
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2002 11:16 am
by hoops
HSV Rangie wrote:Nissan box has great 1st gear would be so good, loose out on overdrive.
The kit used to cost about $1500.00 plus box another 1.5-2K. Are drive shaft changes required.
The difference in fifth between the R380 and Nissan box is small. (0.83 Nissan v 0.77 RR). For me, putting in a Nissan box kills two birds with one stone and is cheaper.
Option a) - R380 with maxidrive crawler approx $3500 - $4500 plus fitting. Low first is still lower with the Nissan box.
Option b) - Nissan box $1200 for the box rest - ?????
You mention that a kit is available. Where is this from. The only place i know of who do the conversion so far are Rangie spares and they don't do any kits (more money for them!).