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WHAT DOES EVERY ONE THINK ABOUT A 4AGE 100KW INTO A W/T 89 SWB SIERRA ? IM ABLE TO GET AN ENGINE ,G/BOX, COMPUTER,FUEL PUMP ETC FOR $2200 / IMPORT ARE THERE ANY PROBLEMS (SERIOUS) I DONT CARE ABOUT LITTLE PROBS .

PEG wrote:WHAT DOES EVERY ONE THINK ABOUT A 4AGE 100KW INTO A W/T 89 SWB SIERRA ? IM ABLE TO GET AN ENGINE ,G/BOX, COMPUTER,FUEL PUMP ETC FOR $2200 / IMPORT ARE THERE ANY PROBLEMS (SERIOUS) I DONT CARE ABOUT LITTLE PROBS .

I think that is expensive for a 4AGE. It is a good conversion, but I think you'll have spent $4000+ by the end with just a 100kw engine. I'm sure you can find cheaper than that. But they are good engines.

Peg,
"Blackzook" is midway doing a similar conversion, his is 4AGZE supercharged injected 1600 into a LWB zook. I cant remember what he paid, but he bought the whole front cut and sold off the bits he didn't want to recop some costs.
Send him a pm as he doesn't check here that regularly.

N*A*M wrote:

PEG wrote:WHAT DOES EVERY ONE THINK ABOUT A 4AGE 100KW INTO A W/T 89 SWB SIERRA ? IM ABLE TO GET AN ENGINE ,G/BOX, COMPUTER,FUEL PUMP ETC FOR $2200 / IMPORT ARE THERE ANY PROBLEMS (SERIOUS) I DONT CARE ABOUT LITTLE PROBS .

I think that is expensive for a 4AGE. It is a good conversion, but I think you'll have spent $4000+ by the end with just a 100kw engine. I'm sure you can find cheaper than that. But they are good engines.

not a bad $$$$
lookin at $2000 for EFI vitara 1600 !!!!!!

A guy here in Mexico has done it...........4AGE with auto behind it !!!

Nick (ELMO) !!

Absolutely loves it ! but the Zook that it was in suffered from the terminal "Yellow Sticker on Windscreen" for the body.................so he's removed it, dumped the body and is about to transplant it into another SWB Hard top Zook !!

Ferozius wrote:A guy here in Mexico has done it...........4AGE with auto behind it !!!

Nick (ELMO) !!

Absolutely loves it ! but the Zook that it was in suffered from the terminal "Yellow Sticker on Windscreen" for the body.................so he's removed it, dumped the body and is about to transplant it into another SWB Hard top Zook !!

that would be the dumped body/chassis I saw 2day !!!!

I put the 4AGE in the same basket as the GTi engine. They're great for the sand or street where you need horsepower, but suck if you want low down torque.

I've driven Corolla's with the stock 4AGE and there was absolutely nothing below 4000RPM. Sure it may have pulled through to 8000RPM but I wouldn't be looking for those characteristics for my 4wd engine.

Inevitably you will probably progress in tyre size and weight and it would be then that I think you would regret using the 4AGE. If you like the 4AGE package overall I would recommend finding a good 4AGZE instead. You could probably find one for nearly the same price but I think you'd be alot happier in the long run.

Regards,
Matt.

I think that the corolla 4age/4agze are all far too heavy for the horsepower. Rev hard but too many revs and not enough torque.

Sorry i cant access the net every night
Ive heard about the 4 AGZE but im worried about how reliable it would in the bush ,dont want a melt down in the middle of no'where!
I run 30'a/t on road & 32' m/t for play , ill fit a series 1 rockhopper aswell,
$$$ the reason im not going the series 3, THANKS FOR ALL THE REPLIES

Also looking for a club i live in Mooroolbark any help would appreciated

at a risk of letting people realise that i don't know mooroolbark... (is it in melbourne area?)

what about the Vic Suzuki Club?

http://www.suzuki-4wd-club.rockcrawler.com

no doubt grimbo can lay down the official club details better than me.

however, next meeting is on wednesday 14th may. AMRA hall, Wills Rd in Glen Iris.

I live in Croydon, next door to Mooroolbark (in Victoria that is)
9723 3485 0407 538 963 kristovr@bigpond.net.au
If I can help, feel free to call, I am presently Clum Magazine Editor. Christover

greg wrote:at a risk of letting people realise that i don't know mooroolbark... (is it in melbourne area?)

what about the Vic Suzuki Club?

http://www.suzuki-4wd-club.rockcrawler.com

no doubt grimbo can lay down the official club details better than me.

however, next meeting is on wednesday 14th may. AMRA hall, Wills Rd in Glen Iris.

clum = club, I need more typing fingers

christover1 wrote:clum = club, I need more typing fingers

I reckon you'd look really silly with only 2 fingers on each hand

Don't grow that second finger just yet

Ferozius wrote:

christover1 wrote:clum = club, I need more typing fingers

I reckon you'd look really silly with only 2 fingers on each hand

Don't grow that second finger just yet

Hi Mate, Zooks Rule, but Ferozas r cool, sort of.

i was going to put a 88kw 4age motor in my zook, and my engineer told me to use an aussie spec motor, eg corolla ae82 88kw, or ae92 100kw corolla or even mr2. i had to find out all the emmision specs and other stuff to try and use an import motor, proved too hard, by the way, you want to get the sump modified, with the pick up at the back, so you have oil going up hills.

4AGE or 4AGZE will both require a custom bellhousing if you want to fit anything other than the G50 box. I went for the hilux box with bellhousing ($1000.00) from Dellow. Plus dual transfers.

You will also need custom extractors, best price I have had is $1100 for those. Then engineer, radiator, brackets etc. So this is definatly not a cheap conversion.

4AGZE is not a revy motor it's all low down torque. More torque at 1200 rpm than any vit 1600 at it's peak. Late model ZE's with map sensor put out 127kw and a Nevo pulley will add at least a dozen more.

4AGE is the rev monster.

Has anyone thought of using a flat 4 like a subaru????????

did measurements !!!!
would have to mount above chassis !!!! TOO WIDE !!!
raise the COG too much , me thinks !!!!

I'm not 100% sure but I've heard that the block in the Daihatsu Feroza is the same as in a toyota and I'm thinking it is the 4AG block. The ferozas block is a HD-E.

Can anyone comfirm this?

It would have to be the best conversion you could do to a suzuki. I have had one in my car since Sept, 1992 (though only the 88kw motor). I originally had a single carby on my conversion, back in those days the cost of fuel injecting the motor was prohibitive because the motors rarely came with a computer. We used the car as an everyday family car, night run car, bush basher, class 8 off-roader & even did a few rallies with the Brisbane Sporting Car Club. She would pull from idle right thru the rev range, & believe me we had it right off the taco alot of times. She has been fuel-injected for the past couple of years using an after-market computer. She still pulls from anywhere in the rev range. Intake manifold airspeed is what determines low speed engine grunt. With the aftermarket computer we can change ratios in car on the go. the TVIS system on the motor can also control the low down torque.

The best way to do a conversion on your suzuki is if you do 99% of it yourself. I've roughly worked out to do my conversion to a 4AGE approx $1600

I have done the 100kw 4A-GE engine conversion and am so happy with it i wouldnt put anything else under the bonnet. It easily kills a G13 both on and offroad with heaps more power and torque. I now have another sierra in my shed waiting for a 4A-GZE engine transplant.

If anyone is more interested in this conversion then you can e-mail me at a_lowry@optusnet.com.au