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Clutch or electric fan ??
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 8:44 pm
by hypo
i got a 2.8 diesel lux and wen i put my dual cases in i want 2 lift the transfercase up as high as p[ossible but i think this will make my fan hit the radiator, the question is do i move the rad so it dont hit or do i take the factory clutch fan off and run an electric one ??
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 8:47 pm
by moose
personal option !!!!
1. you always know your clutch fan is there , working(most of the time !!!)
2. electric fan , more engine power !! only minimal !!!
go both !!!!
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 8:54 pm
by hypo
yeah but if i have a temp gauge will know wen the fan aint wokin
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 8:57 pm
by moose
but wen you are KRAWLIN , wat are ya lookin at !!!!
a. the spotter
b. the rocks
c. the dash/temp gauge
d. the chick flashin her hooters at ya !!!
e. all the above
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 8:58 pm
by Cheezy4x4
I have run just thermo's for 5 years, and to date no probs.
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 9:01 pm
by moose
Cheezy4x4 wrote:I have run just thermo's for 5 years, and to date no probs.
Nissan trials !!!!
after unloading it !!!!
waiting to go to scrutineering !!!!
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 9:03 pm
by hypo
wot sort do u use Cheezy ???
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 9:04 pm
by moose
he,s too slow !!!!
ef/el falcon twin jobbies !!!!
or AU !!!!
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 9:06 pm
by Cheezy4x4
Yer Moose, I have a cut off switch that I sumtimes forget to switch on/off.
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 9:09 pm
by HSV Rangie
I run thermo's on my RR. Ex EL Falcon.
No problems to date.
If you have a good cooling system then thremos will be fine.
Michael.
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 9:16 pm
by hypo
cool i dont think the twin falon ones will fit ill have 2 measure up my rad and and a looksee
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2003 9:26 pm
by HSV Rangie
the main thing is to is make sure the fans have a good shroud that fits the radiator core. Air flow is everything. Air passing through the whole rad.
Just fitting a couple of elec fans to the rad wil not work efficently.
Michael.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 12:19 pm
by 2car
moose wrote:personal option !!!!
1. you always know your clutch fan is there , working(most of the time !!!)
2. electric fan , more engine power !! only minimal !!!
go both !!!!
Ive seen a Hilux break an engine mount and destroy it's clutch fan by stuffing it into the shroud.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 12:30 pm
by 2car
Ive just converted my 40 from clutch fan to twin electrics. I picked up two standard Nippon Denso/Motorcraft fan and shroud assemblies from a wrecker for $50. These things came out on '80s front wheel drive Mazdas and Hondas, and are as common as muck.
I made one shoud out of the two, which took a little effort, but these things suck harder that BJs Mum. There a few gaps I need to fill around the edge of the shroud to bump up the efficiency, but they cool my Chevy very well. I wired them up with a Davies, Craig Thermo switch and power relay kit ($70). I have a three position switch on my dash so I can select on, off or thermo. People complain about sealing the thermo sensor, but I used two hose clamps and a small amount of RTV and no leaks to date.
I'll post up pics when I have time.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 1:55 pm
by Punchy
but these things suck harder that BJs Mum
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 1:56 pm
by Punchy
unless your going through water...adequately sized thermos should be more than good..they should be great mate
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 6:06 pm
by hypo
thanx guys
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 10:24 pm
by 2car
Here's some pics. Thermo switch is at top left of rad.
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 10:27 pm
by 2car
Thermo switch kit. Pretty good kit as far as auto wiring kits go. I used every last bit in the packet and only need a couple of extra bits and pieces to complete the install.
Posted: Thu May 01, 2003 9:12 am
by suprasurf
Watch out for the clutch ones if you spend time in the water, I've seen quite a few bend when entering the water and cut a nasty hole in the radiator :(
Posted: Thu May 01, 2003 7:14 pm
by Marshy
Go the twin thermos off AU Falcon. I had sh!tloads of overheating dramas with my ute when I first got it up and running. These things are awesome, and are very slimline if you don't have a lot of room to play with. With the fans going, I can walk past the front of my ute and it will suck a rag into the grill from about 2 1/2 feet away.
Posted: Thu May 01, 2003 7:30 pm
by MKPatrolGuy
Marshy wrote:Go the twin thermos off AU Falcon. I had sh!tloads of overheating dramas with my ute when I first got it up and running. These things are awesome, and are very slimline if you don't have a lot of room to play with. With the fans going, I can walk past the front of my ute and it will suck a rag into the grill from about 2 1/2 feet away.
how much did they cost u?
Posted: Thu May 01, 2003 7:36 pm
by Marshy
Got mine for $150 from a wrecker here in Brisbane. Though, I've since been told that's a pretty good price. Definately worth the $$$. Easy to fit too. They have a wedge system on the bottom, and just two bolts on the top.
Posted: Thu May 01, 2003 9:11 pm
by 2car
What rad are you running?
Posted: Thu May 01, 2003 9:11 pm
by hypo
Marshy wrote:Go the twin thermos off AU Falcon. I had sh!tloads of overheating dramas with my ute when I first got it up and running. These things are awesome, and are very slimline if you don't have a lot of room to play with. With the fans going, I can walk past the front of my ute and it will suck a rag into the grill from about 2 1/2 feet away.
PIX ??????
Posted: Thu May 01, 2003 9:30 pm
by Screwy
ive got a 13 inch thermo fan running in my 83' lux. i changed cause the fan kept flexing into the radiator cause its too close, also the fan has seized. not only is it wired on a thermostat but ive wired an override switch if i notice the temp shoot. no probs so far.
works the trick
Posted: Thu May 01, 2003 10:27 pm
by MKPatrolGuy
Looks like i'll be visiting the wreckers then
Posted: Fri May 02, 2003 5:24 am
by cplux
2car wrote:Thermo switch kit. Pretty good kit as far as auto wiring kits go. I used every last bit in the packet and only need a couple of extra bits and pieces to complete the install.
I have one of these kits and in my opinion they are crap, anyone that has been out hard wheelin with me knows my thermo always plays up when i do. wether it bounces out of setting or bad/dirty contacts in mechanism or what i dont know. I am in the middle of figuring out a way to use my original temp sensor to activate fan at a pre determined temp, or will just go with a different temp sensor/switch setup when i find one.
also I have had the thermo blade ride into the rad b4 because the circlip vibrated off, no big mess just a few bent fins.
craig
if anyone wants one of the switch kits pictured i have one at home i bought to replace my old one, but couldnt be bothered as they are crap.
Posted: Fri May 02, 2003 4:59 pm
by Marshy
2car wrote:What rad are you running?
Running standard 45 series Landcruiser petrol (2F) radiator.
I will try to get some pix posted as soon as I figure out how to get the pictures small enough to attatch. (only just bought the camera off RUFF, and I'm still working it all out.)
Posted: Fri May 02, 2003 5:34 pm
by derangedrover
For thermo switches:
VDO make a 92 deg switch for installing into a water jacket
American auto parts have the thermistor type that push imbetween the fins of your rad, 200 F, non adjustable.
Both these are heaps better than the $*%$ davies craig things that turn on when its foggy never mind dunking them.
The one from AAP is sealed and will handle 30 amps, VDO one is just like a temp sensor in size and construction but will only handle 10 amps so youll need a relay too.
I can scratch up part# if you need em.
Cheers
Daryl