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legal suspension mods?
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:28 pm
by Cossie
Whats the legalities of raising suspension/body without the need for engineers inspection etc in Vic?
also the same for tyres? someone told me it was 15mm bigger than factory, is that right???

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:45 pm
by -Scott-
In most states a suspension lift which does not modify (increase or decrease) bump or rebound travel by more than one third of factory travel is considered a self-certified mod.
I think body lifts must always be inspected - different states have different dance steps, and different limits. 3" is OK in most places, Queensland limits to 2".
Tyres is correct - no more than 15mm larger than factory. Once again, most states have an inspection procedure to let you go larger, but not Qld.
Cheers,
Scott
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:19 pm
by BIg StEvE
NJ SWB wrote:In most states a suspension lift which does not modify (increase or decrease) bump or rebound travel by more than one third of factory travel is considered a self-certified mod.
I think body lifts must always be inspected - different states have different dance steps, and different limits. 3" is OK in most places, Queensland limits to 2".
Tyres is correct - no more than 15mm larger than factory. Once again, most states have an inspection procedure to let you go larger, but not Qld.
Cheers,
Scott

You Queensland boys and girls have got it tough!

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 7:01 pm
by hottiemonster
BIg StEvE wrote:NJ SWB wrote:In most states a suspension lift which does not modify (increase or decrease) bump or rebound travel by more than one third of factory travel is considered a self-certified mod.
I think body lifts must always be inspected - different states have different dance steps, and different limits. 3" is OK in most places, Queensland limits to 2".
Tyres is correct - no more than 15mm larger than factory. Once again, most states have an inspection procedure to let you go larger, but not Qld.
Cheers,
Scott

You Queensland boys and girls have got it tough!

a second that

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 7:32 pm
by Hoonz
BIg StEvE wrote:NJ SWB wrote:In most states a suspension lift which does not modify (increase or decrease) bump or rebound travel by more than one third of factory travel is considered a self-certified mod.
I think body lifts must always be inspected - different states have different dance steps, and different limits. 3" is OK in most places, Queensland limits to 2".
Tyres is correct - no more than 15mm larger than factory. Once again, most states have an inspection procedure to let you go larger, but not Qld.
Cheers,
Scott

You Queensland boys and girls have got it tough!

from the rumours getting around .. i wouldn't be laughing if i was you
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 7:36 pm
by bazzle
hottiemonster wrote:BIg StEvE wrote:NJ SWB wrote:In most states a suspension lift which does not modify (increase or decrease) bump or rebound travel by more than one third of factory travel is considered a self-certified mod.
I think body lifts must always be inspected - different states have different dance steps, and different limits. 3" is OK in most places, Queensland limits to 2".
Tyres is correct - no more than 15mm larger than factory. Once again, most states have an inspection procedure to let you go larger, but not Qld.
Cheers,
Scott

You Queensland boys and girls have got it tough!

a second that

Same applies in VIC boys. Thats why people engineer their 4bee's...
Bazzle
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 7:39 pm
by Chucky
Once you have an engineers approval you can rego it anywhere can't you?
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 7:45 pm
by -Scott-
No.
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:04 pm
by Camshaft1
Scott[/quote]

You Queensland boys and girls have got it tough!

[/quote]
from the rumours getting around .. i wouldn't be laughing if i was you[/quote]
Dont stress dude all is quiet on the southern front.
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:04 pm
by Chucky
I thought that was the whole idea of getting engineering approval. If having an engineers cert of approval for a 4wd does nothing towards rego why pay thousands getting one?
And how do ppl get there single construction vehcles rego'd?
There has to be a way round this or a loop[ hole to slide through

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:07 pm
by Davidh
It all depends on what you're worried about.
If your car is already registered you'll be ok, unless u get a canary!
Insurance isn't really a worry until u stack or hit someone, then u could be deep in the crap.
I know there is HEAPS of 4wd's in Vic that aren't "legal" but are driving around with full reg and insurance.
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:11 pm
by Hoonz
Camshaft1 wrote:Scott

You Queensland boys and girls have got it tough!

[/quote]
from the rumours getting around .. i wouldn't be laughing if i was you[/quote]
Dont stress dude all is quiet on the southern front.[/quote]
ahh up here theres all talk of the road regs will be adhearing to QLDs
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:24 pm
by daddylonglegs
Don,t get me wrong. I like Sams MogRover. But if Queenslands modification laws are so tough then how in hell did he get that engineered and registered to qualify for TTC .
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:44 pm
by -Scott-
Bill
I'm guessing the MogRover is classified as a custom-built vehicle, or whatever the term may be. I won't demand that Sam explain, in case he can't...
I've made a number of enquiries, through whatever channels I can think of, and Queensland Transport simply don't allow tyres larger than the 15mm limit. They don't allow it because they don't want to - I got all the usual crap about unsafe because they'll rub, raise the centre of gravity, throw out the speedo, make the brakes inefficient, destroy the cosmic balance...

The only way I can legally run larger tyres on a Queensland registered vehicle is if Mitsubishi Australia put something in writing for me.
Chucky
Because Queensland is another world, what is approved in another state isn't necessarily approved
for registration in Queensland. It was explained to me that a vehicle which is legally registered in one state may be legally driven in
any state - something to do with the Federal Constitution, guaranteeing freedom of movement between states. Of course, there are stories of the police not accepting this, but since when do we trust the police to understand the law?

So a Victorian registered and engineered vehicle cannot necessarily be registered in Queensland - driven, yes, but registered, not necessarily.
Clear as mud?
Scott
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:48 pm
by Cossie
ok so what would be the biggest spring lift and tyre size for an 89 mav without engineering? (in vic)
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:43 am
by grimbo
this has been covered about a million times so there are numerous threads on here that hopefully should cover alot of these questions. As to how big it seems to depend on a lot of factors. Some of the major ones are that pretty much most tyres over about 35" aren't speed rated so aren't road legal, most tyres over 12.5" wide require rims that are 8.5" or wider which are basically illegal too. On top of all that is the brake upgrades required, stength of chassis to cope with added weight etc etc
Do a search and be prepared to do alot of reading. Good luck

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:34 am
by bogged
grimbo wrote:this has been covered about a million times so there are numerous threads on here that hopefully should cover alot of these questions.
are you sure

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:36 am
by grimbo
bogged wrote:grimbo wrote:this has been covered about a million times so there are numerous threads on here that hopefully should cover alot of these questions.
are you sure

are you trying to say that there haven't been numerous threads about what size tyre can I legally run, what sort of suspension etc
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:39 am
by bogged
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:05 pm
by -Scott-
Bruce, are you sh!t stirring again?
Stop that, and tell me how I can lift a Mav.
Scott
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:00 pm
by Mick_n_Sal
Correct me if I'm wrong - but doesn't all this tie back to ADRs & the states interpretation of them?
I remember from my younger days that if you wanted to go nuts with a car in Qld, you picked something from pre 71. This way there were no relevant ADRs to come into play.
Now who's selling an old landie ? ....
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:05 pm
by bogged
NJ SWB wrote:Bruce, are you sh!t stirring again?
Stop that, and tell me how I can lift a Mav.
Scott
LMAO!!! OWNED!