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Has anyone done a bootie fab Hi-steer on their lux?

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 9:53 pm
by My Lil Lux
As above, my steering has just about crapped itself, and I know I need to X-over, but am lacking in coin ATM, so was wondering if anyone has bootie fabbed their own X-over, as looking on Snake racing site, I can't afford the $ for their setup, and I personally haven't had good experience with their parts in the past, most are in my shed bent, or stuffed.

If not Bootie fab, who else does X-over apart from ORI and Snake racing in Sydney?

John

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:09 pm
by ToNkA
Why don't you skimp on your brakes too?

Skimping/Booty Fab of Steering components is not only dangerous, its stupid.

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:11 pm
by diesel028
try M&M Custom Engineering, not sure on their prices, but worth a try

Re: Has anyone done a bootie fab Hi-steer on their lux?

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:14 pm
by Gribble
My Lil Lux wrote:As above, my steering has just about crapped itself, and I know I need to X-over, but am lacking in coin ATM, so was wondering if anyone has bootie fabbed their own X-over, as looking on Snake racing site, I can't afford the $ for their setup, and I personally haven't had good experience with their parts in the past, most are in my shed bent, or stuffed.

If not Bootie fab, who else does X-over apart from ORI and Snake racing in Sydney?

John


Overkill? Maquarie? M&M custom?

Do it yourself by all means, but if you got no engineering experiance i wouldn't touch it. I cant weld for shit, so i got mine done at ORI. Prolly the best option in the long run.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:51 am
by My Lil Lux
Not making it myself, Idea sprung from looking under a 75 this morning, mate did his own histeer by flipping steering arms etc., question is could the steering out of a 75 or 60 be modded to fit a lux, Haven't measured anything yet, but looks like it could be done, as can get a 60's steering and possibly a 75's cheap. Any constructive answers to this question appreciated.

Would prefer to do it properly, but have budgeted no money to be spent on POS till after Sept, just want something to keep it wheelin till then.

And can someone give me M&M's ph. and address please.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:42 am
by redzook
My Lil Lux wrote:Not making it myself, Idea sprung from looking under a 75 this morning, mate did his own histeer by flipping steering arms etc., question is could the steering out of a 75 or 60 be modded to fit a lux, Haven't measured anything yet, but looks like it could be done, as can get a 60's steering and possibly a 75's cheap. Any constructive answers to this question appreciated.

Would prefer to do it properly, but have budgeted no money to be spent on POS till after Sept, just want something to keep it wheelin till then.

And can someone give me M&M's ph. and address please.


do u know about the flipped arm?

or u want full highsteer?

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:33 am
by Busiboy
The steering rod will be too long and you will have to get a HUGE tap to make it all fit again.

Penrith Gearbox and Diff has one btw......

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:58 am
by beebee
I'm pretty sure you'll be able to get away with the tie rod length. I used to use an 80 series on mine that I just cut down some of the thread on each end. However I don't think the 60 or 75 series steering system works on a hilux as the leaf springs get in the way.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:43 pm
by STUMPY
if you want to do it on the cheap, overkill do a double arm using two standard arms. i was using a bundera tierod as a drag link until it crapped it self. its a cheap alternative

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:15 pm
by Gribble
beebee wrote:I'm pretty sure you'll be able to get away with the tie rod length. I used to use an 80 series on mine that I just cut down some of the thread on each end. However I don't think the 60 or 75 series steering system works on a hilux as the leaf springs get in the way.


Yep, wont work.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:30 pm
by slosh
I noticed on POS's old rig he used bundera arm (obviously modified with a spacer to allow drag link to leaf clearance). Tierod ran behind diff (hi pinion centre).
Something like this made more sense to me than custom hi steer setups.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:55 pm
by My Lil Lux
STUMPY wrote:if you want to do it on the cheap, overkill do a double arm using two standard arms. i was using a bundera tierod as a drag link until it crapped it self. its a cheap alternative


Got a pic of this, could get me out of trouble, otherwise I'll go with the Chaos arm till I can afford Hi-steer arms.

Thanks for your reply's guys, answered my question.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:01 pm
by My Lil Lux
slosh wrote:I noticed on POS's old rig he used bundera arm (obviously modified with a spacer to allow drag link to leaf clearance). Tierod ran behind diff (hi pinion centre).
Something like this made more sense to me than custom hi steer setups.


Thought I had a pic of this in an old 4wd monthly, but can only make out the tierod at the rear of the axle, Pity the pics were lost out of the photo gallery, but something to look into as well, this would be soething similar to how a GU works wouldn't it.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:00 pm
by My Lil Lux
Does anyone know if these are the Hi-steer arms Gonads is making, Pic was on Overkill site, but looks like M&M sticker on the hi-steer arm, or is Sam making these.

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:45 am
by bubs
they are the m&m arms :cool:

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:28 pm
by 85lux
i made the arms, tie rod and drag link myself.
made the arms from M200, $95
made drag link and tie rod from 4140 hollow bar, $50
but its the machining that costs if you cant do it yourself.

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 2:50 pm
by Guy
85lux wrote:i made the arms, tie rod and drag link myself.
made the arms from M200, $95
made drag link and tie rod from 4140 hollow bar, $50
but its the machining that costs if you cant do it yourself.


got pics ??

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:14 pm
by HG
When it comes to steering don't skimp, get it done right the first time even if it means putting the truck off the road for a while and save for the work to be done.
You need to know that your truck is going to steer straight, turn corners and stop without giving you a sudden change of direction half way through (which can be caused by misaligned steering geomitry).
I drove my truck into Cheezy Racing (VIC) and got the boys to bung in a solid axle with custom steering and when I drove out I litterally drove straight up to Eden that night (1300 kms round trip). It drove ,steered & braked way better than when it was an IFS setup.
It can be expensive to get it done by the guys that know there shit but its worth it in the end.(thats my thoughts anyway)

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:51 pm
by My Lil Lux
That is the way I normally like to do stuff, I think I'll wait and take it to someone when I have the coin.

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:02 pm
by 85lux
nah, havn't got pics. i spend all my money on the car and can't afford a digi camera.