Outer Limits 4x4 Board

just after some opinions (value, performance, set-up etc.) on whats the better road to take.........
supercharge the 2.4 diesel or turbo chrage?????

Try and get yourself a 2LT (they can be as cheap as $1500) they have about 63kw which isn't mush of an increase on the standard 55kw but for the price and minimal modifications they are pretty good they already have piston skirt cooling etc( Mods required Accellerator cable and fuel filter clearance on the Turbo) you will still have change for an intercooler which are around $400 for a top mount and if you can plumb it up yourself you could be looking at 75kw for just over two grand
I put one into a dual cab and have always regretted not installing an intercooler but I sold it because of a lack of power steering anyway...
Regards
Scott

i will most likely be ruilding the 2.4 thats already there as its getting tired and seems to be the best option so far. I know i can get a super charger for around $300, but never really heard of it done?!?!?

a 2L-T is a far better candidate for any form of forced induction. the 2L bottom end is pretty weak even when it's in good condition; the big end bearings are small and the pistons are not built to take the extra heat and load of forced induction. The compression ratio is pretty high too, which limits the gains from forced induction. If you are going to supercharge, the crankshaft has to develop all the power to drive the compressor as well as drive the wheels. With crankshaft strength marginal in the 2L, you're risking the life of your engine with a supercharger even if its only making mild boost. they can be successfully turboed but boost must stay low, even with intercooling, or once again the engine will self destruct in a fairly short time. if you are dead set on rebuilding and boosting, try and get some lower compression pistons, and stick with the turbo, it will be cheaper in the long run and the engine will last longer. for the money you are about to spend you could probably afford a commodore V6 conversion or a decent condition 2.8 diesel to slot in instead.

cheers

Brian

thanks brian thats helped alot...i have heard the 2.8 are hard to get? do u know any places to start. want to stick to four cylinder and prefer to stick with diesel as well, so i guess i am being a bit picky but i have to live with that!!

are you the pough that i think you are, live at prospect and drive a 40 series?

i highly doubt it. dont have the hi lux yet my bro still owns it. will purchase in 6 months or so just trying to weigh up some options. Live in central queensland

Your doing the same as me.

I have a 2L engine and wanna stick a turbo onto it. However, beacause the way the 2L engine is this will more or less kill the engine. What I am going to do is buy a 2LT engine. The performance is quite a boost actually. Will an intercooler give even more power? No idea just now.

If you really want more power you may consider the 13BT or 14 BT engine ...130BHP.....a good boost.

If you can spare the extra budget, go for a 2.8 or 3L hilux engine.

not really after a big power boost. the car just spent a week on fraser island and dint have any troubles. so it has the grunt to do that sort of stuff, i am just after a bit more highway speed, struggles to get to 100 and slows down a good 10 15km when hit a hill. cant turn the 31 inch fat tyres at that speed

Plough
You can't go past the 2lt my old ute sat on a hundred no problems even when towing and when on the sand with a mate in a 2.8D hilux I had to keep stopping to let them catch up even with the A/C on etc
I know the figures don't look much on paper especially the torque at 188nm but felt like a lot more
and it is a dead easy swap mine came out of an Auto Toyota Corona had a flat sump? but I sold my old motor flat sump, flex plate and all to someone that fitted it to a toyota van for $800 and I paid $1600 for my motor at $800 plus a few bits and pieces it was a cheap power increase
Regards
Scott

I have a 2LT powered bundy.

I've also heard a lot about over-stressing the donk due to the loads from forced induction upgrades.

Is this a problem with the 2LT?

I would dearly like to install something, anything, to give us just that little bit more on the road when getting from one track to another. Can't wait for the first full service our little Bundy is being subjected to soon, in order to see just what 'optimised' performance can be like.

For the record, I'm quite pleased with the Bundy as is.

Turby2LT wrote:I have a 2LT powered bundy.

I've also heard a lot about over-stressing the donk due to the loads from forced induction upgrades.

Is this a problem with the 2LT?

I would dearly like to install something, anything, to give us just that little bit more on the road when getting from one track to another. Can't wait for the first full service our little Bundy is being subjected to soon, in order to see just what 'optimised' performance can be like.

For the record, I'm quite pleased with the Bundy as is.

the very best thing you can do to your bundy is intercool it. it's not the extra forced induction that kills these motors, it is excessive heat. add an intercooler and boost it up to 11psi (about as much as the stock turbo will handle) and you should be pleasantly surprised.

the 2L-T is a much stronger motor than the 2L and responds well to carefully planned extra boost.

is the 2LT a bolt in procedure into where a 2L once lived?? how difficult are these to get??

the plough wrote:is the 2LT a bolt in procedure into where a 2L once lived?? how difficult are these to get??

absolute bolt in. the block etc is near identical so the bellhousing, engine mounts etc line up.

they are available in front cuts from importers for around $3000 (expensive but you get a gearbox and stuff too) or look around, they can be had for well under $1000 from people doing V8 conversions etc.

Will the gearbox, presumably a R151 bolt onto the transfer case mated to the G52 dumbdunce?

+dj_hansen+ wrote:Will the gearbox, presumably a R151 bolt onto the transfer case mated to the G52 dumbdunce?

kind of. if you get a 4runner turbo/surf front cut, just transplant the whole shebang. If you get a bundera/prado front cut it gets tricky - you will need for certain the intermediate shaft to fit the 23(?) spline output of the R151R and I'm not sure if you'll also need the R151F to hilux transfer intermediate housing.

alternatively the 2L-T will just bolt up to the G52 (or anything else a 2L was bolted to) - but excessive torque will kill the saller boxes.