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What shocks for 6" lift on LWB GQ

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:10 pm
by CB0569
I understand that everyone is titled to there own opinion and all does help,but what is the best shocks for a 6" lift?
I go bush about 1 - 2 times per month,occasional beach work but other than that its mstly a work driver.
ALL fors and AGAINST will be appreciated.

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:58 pm
by hotrod4x4
was discussed only recently

try searching
( but not just for 6inch lift )

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:30 pm
by Cossie

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:32 pm
by turps
Fox racing shocks are good. But at a billion dollars (this is approx) a corner not real cheap.
There are not that many brands that do up to this hieght and have the right open and closed lenghts. Think Toughdog and ranchos are the main players in these sizes.
Only problems is you need to twin the ranchos on each corner so they can take the wieght of a patrol (this is rumour, supposed to be from Allience though).

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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:03 pm
by Webbie
you can always have o look at the ones i just got for my lux are monroes pt no 66863. 470 compressed to 790 extended. :idea:

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:37 am
by not not
mate there is also pro comp shocks which i have seen in competition truck of a mate and they are awsome great travel but not so much as your spring becomes loose and have a great level of comfort if matched to the right spring (dobinsons are a good match to these shocks ) :lol:

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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 8:36 am
by The Big Green Meany
not2.8 wrote:mate there is also pro comp shocks which i have seen in competition truck of a mate and they are awsome great travel but not so much as your spring becomes loose and have a great level of comfort if matched to the right spring (dobinsons are a good match to these shocks ) :lol:


Yeah I agree, I have 6" dobinson springs in mine and Run Pro Comp with no dramas at all and its always out in the dirt......... :armsup:.....Oh and they are Cheap.............

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 9:52 am
by Suspension Stuff
Depends how much you want to spend probably koni and blistein shocks would come into the equasion with procomps wouldn't they. Correct me if I am wrong..

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 5:58 pm
by not not
i was allways under the assumtion that koni bilstein were quite an expensive shock but could be wrong but also have heard the konis are quite a good shock

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:04 pm
by Suspension Stuff
I will find out a price this week for koni and blistein and I will post it here

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:39 pm
by not not
thatd be good to find out
Cheers 4wd stuff

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:17 pm
by matty b
ive also heard good things about the tough dog shocks. apparently they rate up there near the konis except you cant re valve them like the koni shock

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:27 pm
by Suspension Stuff
The guy who bought my MTR's off me this afternoon had tough dog shocks and he reckoned they were great so maybe I should get a price for them aswell. I will see what I can do..
It is hard to choose because you hear good and bad things about nearly everything. I suppose no product is perfect. Have a good week :lol:

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:37 pm
by ozy1
the problem with shocks, is evryone hears a roumour about one brand, and they keep spreading it,

your best bet is to find people local with similar setups and go for a ride, and see if there is any difference,

I have Ranchos in my GQ with 6" lift, and my old man has Ranchos in his GU with 6" lift, and they work well, mind you, we donthave them set for on road abilities, they are always set for bush work, with the fronts on 1 and rears on 3, so your trucks are pretty soft and bouncy, like riding on slinkies,

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:38 pm
by bogged
matty b wrote: apparently they rate up there near the konis


doubt it.. dont really think there is much that comes close to Konis.

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:12 pm
by Suspension Stuff
Still havn't found out prices for 6 inch lift (hopefully tomorrow), but for a 2 inch lift GQ $185 each for Blistein and Koni's.

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:12 am
by ludacris
I have a set of front Tough dog big bore shocks for a 6 inch lift brand new with warranty $200 each. I can also get you the rears for $235 each.

LudaCris

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:04 pm
by coke
Buy Chris's TD. That's a good deal. The shock that you will need for a 6" lift is very different to a shock for a 2" lift. Rancho etc don't make shocks in the small 35mm bore that suit a 6" lift. $ is not always a guide.

If you run a 6" lift you will more than likely not run swaybars either. I did a lot of research when I upgraded a fortnight ago, and spoke to many people, and eventually decided on the TD 9 ways for my car. See the link in my sig to pics of my car. I paid $520 which was the cheapest I could find them at short notice.

Also, a lot of manufacturers won't warranty the 6" or higher shocks because of the extreme nature of their use. I got a warranty with mine, from Mannells.

I currently have them with no swaybar running on 6.

Andrew

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:39 pm
by not not
Hay ludachris thats a steel at that price cause they would be the 9ways as well if im right

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 2:53 pm
by CB0569
Well how do i know what lengths to look for?
Front springs in car 410mm off car 510mm.
Rear springs in car 440mm off car 540mm.

I was going to look at Dobinsons but i cannot find the australian web page to get a price from the manufacturer.

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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 3:53 pm
by JemmyBubbles
Get a set of Binskins F.A.T shocks for his 6" lift kit.

They are a Procomp es9000. My old man has 4" lift (Lovells springs and Procomp shocks) for his shorty. They rock, last forever and are cheap.

His Jaffa SWB UTE (Which he sold for $25000 recently along with his shop) which was previously that really sweet looking blue soft top, had the same procomp gear in it for like 3 outback challenges.

So that says something for longevity...plus every GQ/GU in wauchope port macquarie has the F.A.T stuff underneath it.......

thats my 2cents

You could ring most places and ask for there shocks that are mated to their 6 inch kits.

I have a 4" tough dog lift and hate it. - it has sagged 1" in the ass end in a year (I don't tow anything) and the shocks are to big and rough at any setting. DAMN you BBMotorsport and DAMN you my lack of knowledge when buying my kit !!!!!!!!

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:28 pm
by not not
Give ludachris a call at his shop cause by judging by the price on the tough dogs he must get pretty good prices on stuff and just check freight cost
Just a thought

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:42 pm
by coke
Bubbles,

I would suggest that the TDs are unsuitable for a lift like 4" Ranchos, Koni, Bilstein and the like are more suitable for that. They have a smaller bore and softer valving than the TDs. At 6"+, your car needs a lot more support and the travel of the shock needs to be greater too.

CB

You need to see in your handbook (manual) as to the standard height of your car, then with the springs installed, see what it sits at. That is effectively the height of your lift. Also, you need to try ramping it and measure what distance it is when the coil becomes loose. Then back off about 20mm. That is the maximum leangth that your shock should extend to.

If you are running a 6" lift, I would recommend the TDs. I am happy with mine. Make sure you get a warranty with them though. If you need any more help, let me know.

Andrew

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:58 pm
by CB0569
I heard today that the
a)Tough Dogs break at the towers.
b)The Rancho`s are unable to handle of a LWB GQ.
c)The Pro Comps arnt much good cause there not adjustable (eg to hard for going bush and to soft for on road cornering etc)

So what do i do now!!!!!!

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:10 pm
by Suspension Stuff
For a 6 inch lift GQ/GU Patrol coils will cost $330 for a set of 4.

Shane
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:18 pm
by CB0569
Hey Shane
I sent an email to you.

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 10:08 pm
by coke
CB0569

IF the TDs break, return them. I have not heard of this issue with them. I have heard that they can have leakage problems around the dial for ride quality.

Listen mate, ALL shock have some tendancy to have a problem. Maybe the ones that broke at the mount were not matched to the spring ride height and were too short or too long, or incorrectly fitted. This could happen to any shock.

Like I said, make sure you get a WARRANTY and that they are matched to ZYOUR cars ride height. Measure compression and full drop without any shocks in. Give these measurements to a stockist and ask them to recommend a shock.

Good luck, and don't believe everything you hear or read...

Andrew