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Converting to larger axles with coils

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 10:07 am
by Bazooka
Looking at converting to larger axles with a coil suspension setup.
What I want info on is what is the best factory setup out there for the job? I was going for Bundera but im not sure. What other vehicles are there that can be used for such a conversion? Range Rover? Patrol?
Anyone had any experience or knowledge regarding this subject?

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 10:10 am
by bazooked
ask sam.

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 7:47 pm
by redzook
lux or bundera diffs

and link it urself. or buy a coil kit off sam and yes he makes them for toy diffs

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:55 am
by EARSEZOOK
I recommend Lux diffs, but you are going to run into troube with using bundy coils (your car is too light),

What I am doing to my Vit is hilux diffs but using TJ Jeep coil and shock mounts, with TJ coils, 80 series 3 link front for max articulation, and a triangulated 4-link rear using 4 nissan rear lower control arms. Going inboard with the rear shocks and will have the same shocks front and rear.

Cheers Paul

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:57 am
by EARSEZOOK
Another good thing to remember with Lux diffs is you can go up to 5.71 diff ratios.

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:03 pm
by munecito
Stupid question here.

Isn't the hilux IFS??? So in that case, do you use two rear diff for the suzukis???

Will

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:08 pm
by EARSEZOOK
Hilux only went IFS after 1996

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:12 pm
by munecito
Thanx

Will

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 2:14 pm
by redzook
munecito wrote:Stupid question here.

Isn't the hilux IFS??? So in that case, do you use two rear diff for the suzukis???

Will


he he how do u turn :shock:

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 2:50 pm
by Bazooka
Thanks guys,

if I go down the bundera path i wont be using the stock coils anyway. I have King Springs just down the road that can make me any spring I require.

Earsezook, you seem to have done your homework. I was looking for something with a 4 link or A-frame rear setup. The Nissan links sound intriguing. Why did you choose 80 series front links? Do you have any pics of this build or is it still in the planning stages?

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:36 pm
by munecito
Well I didn't think about that!!!

But everything is very clear now, I can see the light.

Will

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:47 pm
by EARSEZOOK
I'm still in planning stages.

The reason for eunning the 80ser arms is simple, the GQ, Bundera, and Rover arms are all of a similar configuration with a pin that attatches to the chassis inside 2 large rubber bushes which allow good twist, but limit up and down travel. whereas the 80 series has an eye which then bolts to the chassis allowing greater travel up and down with less resistance but has the adverse result of limited twist.

At the end of the day I know I'll be happier with the 80series ones, I will also be running a sway bar in the front for on the road.

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:57 pm
by J Top
Later Bundy, post 1990?, have the same arms as an 80.
They are also Hi Pinion so the steering is less of a hassle.
Drop 1 bolt out of the 4 bolts in the diff for less bind and better artic.
A good A arm is, IMHO, better than a 4 or 5 link for the rear.
J Top

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:08 pm
by redzook
J Top wrote:Later Bundy, post 1990?, have the same arms as an 80.
They are also Hi Pinion so the steering is less of a hassle.
Drop 1 bolt out of the 4 bolts in the diff for less bind and better artic.
A good A arm is, IMHO, better than a 4 or 5 link for the rear.
J Top


there pretty much the sam thing they work on the same pricipal

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:26 am
by Bazooka
Thanks for the tip on the post 90's bundys, J top. Ill look into that too.
I do agree with redzook on the a-frame idea though.

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:01 am
by EARSEZOOK
Tke only problem with A frame Set-ups is the rear diff steer. (beware)

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:29 pm
by redzook
EARSEZOOK wrote:Tke only problem with A frame Set-ups is the rear diff steer. (beware)


if u trianglate the lowers they wont steer as much will also take some load off the one joint on the aframe

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:00 pm
by OVERKILL ENG
EARSEZOOK wrote:Tke only problem with A frame Set-ups is the rear diff steer. (beware)


A four link will do the same if you don't triangulate the lowers
SAM

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:55 am
by EARSEZOOK
Thanks Sam,
That is something I was not aware of, but will definately keep it in mind for my build up