Outer Limits 4x4 Board

with single link trac bars, should i put a cross member in at the front spring hanger? if i run it to the factory cross member i think it'll do wierd things to the diff on drp away.

what are your thoughts?

cheers joel

I tried running a single link Track bar years ago and it actually induced axle wrap and kinked the rear springs. It induces Axle wrap because the point at the axle gives the axle something to rotate around if you understand? Although i know others that have ran these successfully. Maybe my springs were just to soft. After going to a triangulated track bar i had no problems.

i can see how the trac bar would give the diff a point to rotate around. how high was the mount above the diff? i know that ben aka hypo has had success was his bar.

STUMPY wrote: i know that ben aka hypo has had success with his bar.

Not if you talk to shara while he isn`t around


I haven`t seen a single link bar fully delete axle wrap.

Guts wrote: Not if you talk shara while he isn`t around


I haven`t seen a single link bar fully delete axle wrap.

i might let him explain that one.

My mates HJ73 runs a range rover radius arm as his single link track bar, running 39's with soft springs, without much wrap, Maquarie 4x4 did it I think.

My Lil Lux wrote:My mates HJ73 runs a range rover radius arm as his single link track bar, running 39's with soft springs, without much wrap, Maquarie 4x4 did it I think.

got any more info on this? have a bj73 myself


Lance

Just go a triangulated one and be done with it...not probs with mine

Depends on what leafs you run and how long they are

My Lil Lux wrote:My mates HJ73 runs a range rover radius arm as his single link track bar, running 39's with soft springs, without much wrap, Maquarie 4x4 did it I think.

its not really a single link as there are two mounts on the axle

ive seen macquarie use a rover arm on a few vehicles

real tidy, works well, if you have the room for a new cross member and your suspension isn't jacked sky high

i'm going to try and make the ute as low as possible but the spring pack will be quite light and soft

STUMPY wrote: spring pack will be quite light and soft

Ladder bar for sure

STUMPY wrote:i'm going to try and make the ute as low as possible but the spring pack will be quite light and soft

Haha yeah i've heard you can really soften up the leaves in the leaf sprung lada's

So whats the verdict Joel, have you got ur trac bar sorted yet? Im thinking of doing single link also, just wondering what everyone else has done.

diesel028 wrote:So whats the verdict Joel, have you got ur trac bar sorted yet? Im thinking of doing single link also, just wondering what everyone else has done.

Single link didn't work for me. it only gave the diff something to rotate around. it did improve axle wrap but not enough. all post pics tonight of my srings on full compression, its not good.

single link would only work if it attached to the bottom of the diff on spoa or to the top of the diff on spua. that way the spring behaves as the second link.

Note how much the spring is compressing at the front compared to the rear.

There is now way you can use the spring as a link. Springs bend. If your springs are stiff enough to use them to complete the triangulation then you don't need a track bar.

holy bent springs batman

Joel, do you have any pics of the trac-bar you were using?

cant c the pic for sum reason....

Joel, just copy bens design. Best one ive seen so far.

hypozook wrote:cant c the pic for sum reason....

right click the red x, then click properties, highlight the address, then copy and paste it into a new page and it should come up.

Gribble wrote:Joel, just copy bens design. Best one ive seen so far.

What design is this?

diesel028 wrote:

Gribble wrote:Joel, just copy bens design. Best one ive seen so far.

What design is this?

Look for a post by Drop Bear on anti wrap bar. I forget where it is and cant be bothered searching.

STUMPY wrote:Note how much the spring is compressing at the front compared to the rear.

There is now way you can use the spring as a link. Springs bend. If your springs are stiff enough to use them to complete the triangulation then you don't need a track bar.

yea agreed im not saying that single link is an ideal setup however what I am saying is that a trackbar to the bottom of a diff (not practical anyhow) would have an affect of some percentage in reducing axle wrap unlike a track bar to the top that will do nothing if it does not make the problem worse.

STUMPY wrote:

diesel028 wrote:So whats the verdict Joel, have you got ur trac bar sorted yet? Im thinking of doing single link also, just wondering what everyone else has done.

Single link didn't work for me. it only gave the diff something to rotate around. it did improve axle wrap but not enough. all post pics tonight of my srings on full compression, its not good.

have you tried taking the rap bar off and checking out ur springs?

id be suprised if there is any diference

When i used to run leaves in the back of the Runner they looked exactly like that on full stuff, & i used to run a triangulated ladder bar on mine.

The spring will allways have more bend in the front half as it is shorter than the back, it is also mounted lower on the frame rail so its being pushed down further to.

redzook wrote:

STUMPY wrote:

diesel028 wrote:So whats the verdict Joel, have you got ur trac bar sorted yet? Im thinking of doing single link also, just wondering what everyone else has done.

Single link didn't work for me. it only gave the diff something to rotate around. it did improve axle wrap but not enough. all post pics tonight of my srings on full compression, its not good.

have you tried taking the rap bar off and checking out ur springs?

id be suprised if there is any diference

3 linked now

STUMPY wrote:3 linked now

Pics please...