Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Hi all

I was just reading a previous thread and it mentions that the self levelling unit is useless with a 2 inch spring lift and the unit also prevents articulation.

I have a 2 inch spring lift so can I remove the self levlling unit? The springs are uprated.

Cheers

Andrew

loose it.

HSV, i love those 1 liners! As said , loose it. Some try and refit 2nd hand units which is a total waste of time.

Ok...thanks for that...I guess that means I will be lying on the cold concrete ripping the unit out tonight!!

Cheers

Andrew

is this the big shocky lookin thing that attaches to the wishboney thing? is there any side affects to removin it? i am about to put a 3 inch suspension lift in so if its going to snag my artic i want to get rid of it...is it an easy job to do?

Piss it off and loose the dead weight that if it's not working (mine didn't), Plus they are bloody heavy

I found the ride too harsh with the load leveller in (slightly harder springs at 220lb), got rid of it and it made a diffrence to the ride, much softer and more comfortable.

I also removed the rear seat to loose more weight and even with my camping gear in when I go away it doesn't sag at all. Just got to fit my cargo barrier and it will be all good

Trav

Trav, I disagree.
The beauty of the leveller is that you can use softer springs to lift the car, yet still carry a load and retain really good articulation and ride.
I have Rangie spares "Orange" in the back which are 17+inches and 180 Lbs.to give a 2 inch lift.

The Nivomat is a combination bump stop, shock, and gas spring. It pumps up an inch over the normal level on rough roads. ( I didn't know this until I read the article which I posted a while ago)

It assists articulation, which is the difference between one side and the other by providing a fulcrum. Its important to know that suspension droop is not the be all and end all, it is the flexibility that allows one side to go upwhile the other goes down. that is important
When there is a load in , it stops bum droop after the 2 ins are taken up.By the way , the standard back springs are usually below the Nivomat pumped level , so you do not really get 2 inches, if you measure 2 inches at rest. Also the Nivomat will stop squat going up hills.
I reckon they are terrific but I know I am in the minority.
Look at a Disco climb a gnarly hill then a Rangie. the Rangie kills it for smoothness.
Trav, you should try the new old car with 180s and the nivomat . I know Aquarangie did not have the brackets because it was originally air
suspension. Probably no go for three inches , but the drop spacer for the ball joint would give extra droop.
RegardsPhilip A

By now , all rangies fitted with boge units are getting on and the unit will be shagged and they arent cheap to replace.

Philip A wrote:Trav, I disagree.
The beauty of the leveller is that you can use softer springs to lift the car, yet still carry a load and retain really good articulation and ride.
I have Rangie spares "Orange" in the back which are 17+inches and 180 Lbs.to give a 2 inch lift.

The Nivomat is a combination bump stop, shock, and gas spring. It pumps up an inch over the normal level on rough roads. ( I didn't know this until I read the article which I posted a while ago)

It assists articulation, which is the difference between one side and the other by providing a fulcrum. Its important to know that suspension droop is not the be all and end all, it is the flexibility that allows one side to go upwhile the other goes down. that is important
When there is a load in , it stops bum droop after the 2 ins are taken up.By the way , the standard back springs are usually below the Nivomat pumped level , so you do not really get 2 inches, if you measure 2 inches at rest. Also the Nivomat will stop squat going up hills.
I reckon they are terrific but I know I am in the minority.
Look at a Disco climb a gnarly hill then a Rangie. the Rangie kills it for smoothness.
Trav, you should try the new old car with 180s and the nivomat . I know Aquarangie did not have the brackets because it was originally air
suspension. Probably no go for three inches , but the drop spacer for the ball joint would give extra droop.
RegardsPhilip A

I know you are a fan of the load leveller, but with harder springs I have found the ride too harsh. You do have a point and I can see how the leveller would aid in articulation (a central pivot type thing).

I still have the old one in the shed just in case I go down that path again as you had suggested, but at the moment it's been going fine.

I agree that articulation is not the 'be all to end all', but that's what Maxi-Drives are for for occasions that I start to lift wheels. The new-old Rangie may not have the articulation that Aquarangie did, but it's a much more stable off-road than Aquarangie ever was for some weird reason

Regards,

Trav