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Re-grooving tyres
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 2:53 pm
by matt73
I have some Simex tyres that I want to regroove. I'm looking to get a few mm in the centre as the outer lugs are pretty good.
Anyoen got any advice, and where can I get a suitable tool for the job? Gonzo, you can piss right off with your Steak knife suggestion
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:39 pm
by Bingham
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:54 pm
by Mytqik
I have seen people use a soldering iron. If you have a half decent one ie 100W + and has replaceable tips you are in luck. Unscrew the original tip & place it somewhere safe.
Find some steel bar that fits inside the soldering iron, bend some 2mm plate into a U shape & tack weld it onto the steel bar. You will have to experiment with the width of the steel plate as too thin it will bend & too thick it will radiate the heat too much & not cut the rubber for you.
BINGO you now have an in-expensive tyre groover.
"Legal Disclaimer - the above mentioned post is to be used as a guide only for the purposes of modifying off road tyres only. It is in no way to be used for the purpose of modifying on road tyres. The user of this information does so at their own risk using their own judgement. The author of this post will not & can not be held accountable for loss/suffering or damages as a result of using this information"
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:56 pm
by RV80
Angle grinder
Makes a bit of a mess though.
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:39 am
by hokey
sorry to ressurrect the thread. been going through the FAQ and am a bit confused. is grooving a way of getting more tyre life or just get a bit more flex and traction. my brother has some TSL's that are under his 40 which is being built atm and they are pretty bald so i thought we might be able to get some more life out of them. only will be used to be driven to tracks and back. so is grooving for me?
Cheers, Calvin
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:10 pm
by hokey
anyone?
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:42 pm
by runnin4life
hokey wrote: only will be used to be driven to tracks and back. so is grooving for me?
Cheers, Calvin
by that do you mean on tar roads, the ones police have control off
if so i would say dont do it as you will be doing 60km's min
the tyres may not hold up to the rpm they are doing compared to when off road
cheers
elliot
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:07 pm
by hokey
i would just be regrooving the standard pattern to gain some morel ife out of the tyre. so a big no no?
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:26 pm
by mavzilla
I have had experience with truck tyre regroving
they are marked and made to be regrovable
car tyres are not and should not be regroved
why risk it on tyres that are stuffed anyway, put ya time and effort in to save the money and buy new or better second hand ones
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:45 pm
by chops
mavzilla wrote:I have had experience with truck tyre regroving
they are marked and made to be regrovable
car tyres are not and should not be regroved
why risk it on tyres that are stuffed anyway, put ya time and effort in to save the money and buy new or better second hand ones
I concur!
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:53 pm
by hokey
yes but super swampers are not your standard car tyres. this is not for everyday use but only for weekends
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:04 pm
by mavzilla
they still dont have the thickness required for regroving
and would be inferior if you want to use them
they would also be illegal (on road)
and tyres that are that worn that need regroving arent worth a cracker of road anyway
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:21 pm
by ausyota
I grooved my swampers with a tyre groover.
But I just took a bit out of the lugs not the carcass.
On some chunky tyres grooving the lugs can help the tyre flex a lot better and also give you more biting edges for traction.
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... groove+tsl
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:28 pm
by mavzilla
regroving is where you make the water channels deeper in the tyre to extend the life of the tyre
Cutin up the tread to modify the patern is ok if you dont go past the original case depth but is diferent to what was asked.
Also your tyres are illegal if modified any way to the tread patern
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:32 pm
by RockyF75
i thought super swampers where illegal on-road anyway
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:37 pm
by mavzilla
IT was a general answer about tyres not directed at any brand but for you do not change the tread patern in any tyre as it is illegal and it is Monday if this helps you
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:38 pm
by pongo
I saw a docco on NZ and they used a chainsaw to cut grooves across the tyres for extra traction on there Demo Derby Cars. I wouldnt reccomend it but Why the hell not
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:35 pm
by beatle_bayly
What about a router or laminate cutter with a sutably sized bit ?
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:35 pm
by markil
pongo wrote:I saw a docco on NZ and they used a chainsaw to cut grooves across the tyres for extra traction on there Demo Derby Cars. I wouldnt reccomend it but Why the hell not
Sorry it's off topic, but that was a great doco
2x4 timber to support roof incase they roll was another tip i learnt from it
Mark.
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:38 pm
by pongo
markil wrote:pongo wrote:I saw a docco on NZ and they used a chainsaw to cut grooves across the tyres for extra traction on there Demo Derby Cars. I wouldnt reccomend it but Why the hell not
Sorry it's off topic, but that was a great doco
2x4 timber to support roof incase they roll was another tip i learnt from it
Mark.
Oh shiat. I had forgotton about that 1 already. Perfect for tuff truck
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:42 pm
by rockcrawler31
hey beatle
a decent router spins at 30 000rpm, would you like to try and hold it when the bit grabs the rubber then digs into your femoral artery! routers are hard enough to use freehand just on timber
sorry about the graphicness. dad took his finger off with a panel saw last year, and he was using it the way it was supposed to be.
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:05 pm
by beast of a GQ
Hey guys Does anyone no who can do Tyre regrooving on some 37" Boggers near the caboolture, sunny coast area. Something on the cheap side even a home job aslong as it will be descent.
Cheers, Shane
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:37 pm
by beast of a GQ
Any body
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:25 pm
by bigbrowndog
It is my understanding that unless the tyre is marked by the manufacturer as suitable for re grooving that it is illegal to do so in Queensland. Are your tyres marked suitable, otherwise un roadworthy , defect, no insurance. If you only use is off road on private property , maybe you owe yourself or any passengers more? Goodluck either way.
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:30 pm
by beast of a GQ
Come on mate think about 37 boggers legal in QLD i don't think they are legal anywhere. Im not worried about legal. I just dont wanna have these tyres here that have bugger all tread. And i don't wanna sell them. Rather regroove them then run them into the ground. May aswell get as much as you can out of them.
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:10 pm
by B.D.R
Try a Truck tyre place, they will be able to help you
I would'nt have a clue on the cost, but i could'nt see it being too much
As for if Grooving a Bogger is legal or not, the whole tyre is'nt legal on our Roads so what would it matter if you grooved it.
There have been heaps of people Groove them, christ People are Grooving Brand new Treps
, so it can't be all that bad
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:21 pm
by beast of a GQ
Thats the theory i was going with. Thanks mate
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:07 pm
by bigbrowndog
beast of a GQ wrote:Come on mate think about 37 boggers legal in QLD i don't think they are legal anywhere. Im not worried about legal. I just dont wanna have these tyres here that have bugger all tread. And i don't wanna sell them. Rather regroove them then run them into the ground. May aswell get as much as you can out of them.
Cheers Mate, I missed the 37's my mistake. LOL I had the impression you weren't worried about legal as you never mentioned trailering the beast. How do the breaks perform with 37's. cheers
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:09 pm
by beast of a GQ
Ha na thats cool but yer no trailering. My house backs onto Glasshouse forestry and my work is at beerwah. So i do run these as daily's but very very little road use. I go everywhere i need to go through the bush. lol
But when i do go on a trip some where i just take my box trailer with the 37's in it. And chuck the 32" all terrains on. But normally to lazy.
Brakes are fine i can't find any differance between the 37's and the 32's. Only in power loss.
Cheers, Shane