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correct name

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:26 pm
by Gilli Pie
This is ganna sound really stupid, but what is the name of the things that go onto the end of your axels and lower the wheel so the diff is higher off the ground, you can use either chain or gears and i know a guy in Geelong used to make em but i don't think anyone else does.

if that doesn't help i'll try again

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:31 pm
by MYTTUF
Is it a tyre????

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:36 pm
by N*A*M
portal hubs

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:37 pm
by toaddog
portal axle boxes unimogs have them

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:40 pm
by Gilli Pie
no it's like a um the axel goes onto a gear instead of the wheel, hub what eva and then there a 2 more gears that go lower with or without reduction and then the lower gear goes out to the wheel and spins it. you could easily get the center of the wheel 3" lower then the axel center and i think a little off set because the wheels are moved out alittle.

does that help

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:45 pm
by muppet_man67
why dont you get your licence first. :finger:

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:46 pm
by Gilli Pie
stuff you 2 weeks

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:50 pm
by DaveS3
They already told you.

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:50 pm
by spazbot
yeah they are called portals

mogs come with them standard and the bolt ons were for rangies

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:51 pm
by Shorty40
N*A*M wrote:portal hubs


Apparently this is not correct, but he will explain it again :lol:

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:53 pm
by Gilli Pie
it's the portal axles thanx for that.

does anyone know if anyone makes the portals to go onto your 4bi axles

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:54 pm
by DaveS3
What car?

Maxi Drive make kits to go on rover axles
About $14k

Search the rover section.

Dave.

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:55 pm
by Gilli Pie
like nissan's toyota's etc

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:57 pm
by spazbot
nope they dont and the cost of them it would be much cheaper to buy some mog axles and convert them for your rig,


but the main question is why ?????

do you need them ??

or they just for looks when ramping maccas bins and shopping trolleys

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:58 pm
by Shadow
yeh i make em

i use bicycle gears as i find it easier to work with

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:01 pm
by MYTTUF
For you Gilli Pie a tyre will be the only thing that raises you diff from the ground!

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:05 pm
by Gilli Pie
allready running 33's and my dad thinking of making them for his nissan and others if he can make em relativly cheap. only thoughts at the moment though, nothing concrete. i'm just doing some research for him.

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:10 pm
by DaveS3
You dont even know the name, but yet your conidering making them? :?

However you do it it will not be cheap. If you have access to all machining equipment and can do it yourself it may be possible, if not then good luck on $$$$.

There is only one person i know of that has made a set.

Dave.

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:11 pm
by Shadow
what drop do the mogs have anyway?

its not 3" is it?

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:14 pm
by DaveS3
Shadow wrote:what drop do the mogs have anyway?

its not 3" is it?


Volvos are 5" or 6".

Mogs are similar - 6"?

Dave.

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:15 pm
by spazbot
do a search on pirate they are talking bout some bolt on ones atm think the price was around 8k USD

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:23 pm
by Gilli Pie
dads a mechanical and electro engineer got a all the machinery at work. didn't know the name because we've only ever seen one picture of these in a 4wd mag and it didn't mention what they were

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:30 pm
by DaveS3
Look at the design of the Volvo and Unimog Portal Axles then.

Search both here and Pirate 4x4 for more info and pictures.

These are the Maxi Drive portals, made by Mal Storey in Queensland

Dave.

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:34 pm
by Gilli Pie
thanx for all that guys really helpful

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:45 pm
by Shorty40
Glen Dobbin made his own

Try Dobbin Engineering

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:53 pm
by Shadow
would a chain drive require less engineering?

obviously it wouldnt be good at speed

but if its just for a buggy, perhaps it wouldnt matter

i have seen chain drive on rollers and other heavy equipment, and they dont look very technical at all, no where near as technical as that picture above.

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:54 pm
by GRIMACE
send me your first set free of charge and i will give you sum feedback :D

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:04 am
by DamTriton
Shadow wrote:would a chain drive require less engineering?

obviously it wouldnt be good at speed

but if its just for a buggy, perhaps it wouldnt matter

i have seen chain drive on rollers and other heavy equipment, and they dont look very technical at all, no where near as technical as that picture above.


If you could use the chain from a chain drive tcase and machine up a couple of new drive gears for it, it may be a possibility. Should be strong enough, and the speed shouldn't worry it too much. Only minor problem would be keeping everything cool, may need a small electric pump wired up to circ oil to a oil cooler.

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:12 am
by RaginRover
GaryInOz wrote:
Shadow wrote:would a chain drive require less engineering?

obviously it wouldnt be good at speed

but if its just for a buggy, perhaps it wouldnt matter

i have seen chain drive on rollers and other heavy equipment, and they dont look very technical at all, no where near as technical as that picture above.


If you could use the chain from a chain drive tcase and machine up a couple of new drive gears for it, it may be a possibility. Should be strong enough, and the speed shouldn't worry it too much. Only minor problem would be keeping everything cool, may need a small electric pump wired up to circ oil to a oil cooler.


Don't know how much chains are out of other tcases but the ones in the rover tcases are worth $1500 ish secondhand last time I priced one.

Tom

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:20 am
by ToNkA
spazbot wrote:do a search on pirate they are talking bout some bolt on ones atm think the price was around 8k USD


Even better ask this question on pirate and make sure you mention you are new!

;)