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Spring rates for a RR

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:15 am
by walker
Hi all,
I just wanted to get an idea of what spring rates everyone is running with a 2" spring lift. So far it seems the majority are running 180lb front and 210lb rear. Is anyone running lighter?

I would like to run 150lb front and 180lb rear and get them custom made for height, do you all think I am asking for trouble going this light?

Lastly, is a 2" spring, 2" body lift & cut guards enough to run 35" tyres. I have a '77 2 door.

Thanks

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:20 am
by BASSYK
you will fit 35"s easy with that setup

i was running 2" spring , 2" body and flared guards and my 35" pedes very rarely scrubbed out

also speak to shane AKA 4wd Stuff on here , he was a lot of help with my latest spring lift and hunt for shockers

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:23 am
by walker
But more importantly, what spring rate? :multi:

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:34 am
by HSV Rangie
I run

180 on front

270 on rear.

Have a look in FAQ lots info on springs ect.

Michael

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:38 am
by walker
Thanks Michael,
What do you have in the back for such heavy springs or is it for towing or touring?

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:42 am
by HSV Rangie
220 s were to floppy. Also when loaded for camping sagged more than I wanted.

Have rear bumper and rear spare wheel carrier.

Michael.

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:48 am
by walker
Ok, this is the sort of real life data I was after.

I also have a rear wheel carrier so it sounds like 180lb would definately be too light. But I do want to get that very soft feel that the original Rangies had.

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:50 pm
by landy_man
BASSYK wrote:you will fit 35"s easy with that setup

i was running 2" spring , 2" body and flared guards and my 35" pedes very rarely scrubbed out

also speak to shane AKA 4wd Stuff on here , he was a lot of help with my latest spring lift and hunt for shockers


i also run 2" spring and 2" body with heavy chopped guards, but my 35's still rub on the rear of the wheel wells.... TBRI custom wheel wells on the way ;)

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:53 pm
by walker
Whats wrong with an angle grinder & a sledge hammer. :crazyeyes:

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:29 pm
by amtravic1
I ran 180 lb springs in the front of my 2 door and 220 in the rear. Even with a load and ARB bar and spare wheel out back they were ok. Found that 270 lb Rangie Spares Springs were too harsh. I also tried a set of Lovells springs at around 240 lb rate which were good in the rear. In my 4 door I have 180 lb fronts with ARB bar, dual batteries and winch but at the rear need 300-340 lb variable ARB springs due to the ARB bar and wheel, heavy aftermarket tank and all the tools I carry for work. The rear is much too stiff unloaded though. Seems that the 4 doors are heavier in the rear and Rangie Spares confirmed that.

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:34 pm
by walker
Ok,
seems that my idea of 150lb & 180lb will be too soft. I guess I will stick with the majority & go 180 & 210lb.

I am a bit surprised as I have my 2004 Disco lifted 2" & I am only running 150lb on the front even with bar & winch. They are custom springs & were made 2.5" taller than standard & gave me a 2" lift. They are perfect and I would not want any harder.

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:06 pm
by landy_man
you dont have to go with the majority...
why not pull your springs out the disco and fit em up and see how the go...
would only take a little while to change em.. if you're happy with 'em get some made
nothing ventured, nothing gained ;)

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:14 am
by Timbot
I was wondering how people with the higher rates went for flex?

Can you get full articulation at 270?

I know this would depend on load but at 270 can you only get good articulation when carrying 3 people camping gear etc?

This site has a little list too http://www.rangerovers.net/rrsuspension.htm
Approximate Coil Spring Rates (lb/in) (Front) (Rear) Swaybar bushings
Pre-EFI Range Rover 1970-84 133 150 no soft
RR Base Models 1984-92, County 89-90 133 120-178 (variable rate) no hard
RR County 1991-93 133 150 yes soft

I found my rangie was much to close to bumpstops after adding a winch, winchbar, and steel cable :)
Since firming up the front to take the weight, it doesn't flex as well. (No surprises there.)

I remember reading an article about the Smiths rangie, and they were changing the rear springs based on the event they were going to!

Tim

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:36 am
by HSV Rangie
I feel the 270 s are slightly to hard.

what I want is 250 I think.

These i will have made by jacob springs Melbourne.

220 were ok just to floppy empty and sagged way to much when fully loaded.
Lost 35-50mm when loaded.

180 in front with holden motor and steel BB seems to be good.

Michael.

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 9:29 am
by walker
I have since found out that the Rangie I just bought already has 180lb front & 230lb rear and has 3.5" front & 5.3" rear at bumpstops so I will probably leave it as it is for now. It also has Bilsteins all round but I will have to try and find out there length.