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Getting a GU Patrol Ute 2005 brand new 4.2ltr donk. Now i was thinking on getting a 3 inch lift with 1 inch body lift, or just get a 4 inch lift kit? which one would be better and why? I wanna get 33 inch tyres on the donk.

Also i have a problem as in which brand on suspension to get, i know there is lost of opinions, now i was thinking of 4-Way suspension kit, or Rancho Suspension kit, or OME suspension kit?

Sorry it is too hard for me figure out , if you guys can help i would be gratefull

Thanks

to go 33's you dont need more than a 2inch lift, infact with a 2-3 inch lift you can run 36's on a GU.

Have a read through the dozen or so pages, there are DOZENS of threads on suspension. Probably 3 per page.

in my opinion go for a 4" kit and forget the body lift. Bodylift will not be needed for 33" tyres anyway. 4" will flex better than the 3". The bodylift would be required if fitting 36" or higher i would expect. As for brands just get good quality gear. I bought efs springs and shocks and castor correction for my 4" kit for under a grand. flexes real nice and the 33's don't scrub anywhere, no bodylift.

Is EFS a good brand? never heard of them really

I fit 35s in with out gaurd chop......6" susp, but you will fit 33s with 2" or 3" lift but with 4" you can fit 35s in if ya keen in the future

BigMav wrote:4" will flex better than the 3".

Not always correct. the most important thing is to get all components that work together, and matched springs, shock lengths and compresson ratios.

The bodylift would be required if fitting 36" or higher i would expect.

search for the photo of little rolys GU with Q78's on 3in lift. no chop or body.

bogged wrote:

BigMav wrote:4" will flex better than the 3".

Not always correct. the most important thing is to get all components that work together, and matched springs, shock lengths and compresson ratios.

The bodylift would be required if fitting 36" or higher i would expect.

search for the photo of little rolys GU with Q78's on 3in lift. no chop or body.

I was assuming that the 4" and 3" would be set up correctly thus a 4" would provide more flex

I don't have a GU so yeah thats news to me, I didn't think they would fit 36's so easily. Different suspension kits of the same height will fit different size tyres depending on how well they flex. I've seen blokes with 6" kits on gq's and 33's which scrub.

look at roldits ute
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=27632

36 centipedes on his, small lift.

what do you want to do with the truck...?? Comps? or city driving, or use it as a ute daily?

xplot wrote:Is EFS a good brand? never heard of them really

i've had no problems with my stuff, and its a very heavy car at the moment. I have heard that rancho's can't take the weight of a patrol and some people fit two to each corner to deal with it. Heard good things about tough dogs but very pricey. EFS seems to be getting more and more popular. have a look here.

http://www.efs4wd.com.au

Xplot,

have you run these mods via Nissan. Are they likely to void your warranty at all? Would it be wise to have nissan fit them so there are no issues about unauthorised mods?

RN

RoadNazi wrote:Xplot,

have you run these mods via Nissan. Are they likely to void your warranty at all? Would it be wise to have nissan fit them so there are no issues about unauthorised mods?

good point, but then again, look at Rolys blue GU, and the exposure it had, wheels 200ft in air etc, and the issue it had (g/box, engine, snail etc), always warranty.

RoadNazi wrote:Xplot,

have you run these mods via Nissan. Are they likely to void your warranty at all? Would it be wise to have nissan fit them so there are no issues about unauthorised mods?

RN

The Running gear should still be under warranty even if i do the lift kit i would think so anyway, plus there will be a engineer ceretificate with it anyway

I've already got 33's on my standard GUIII wagon. No problems with rubbing so far.

I have opted for a 2in lift - both for legal and insurance reasons. Only bought the stuff today - King Springs and Koni shocks.

Putting it all together tomorrow, so will let you know how it goes.

gu4800 wrote:I've already got 33's on my standard GUIII wagon. No problems with rubbing so far.

I have opted for a 2in lift - both for legal and insurance reasons. Only bought the stuff today - King Springs and Koni shocks.

Putting it all together tomorrow, so will let you know how it goes.

Yeah please do Dan i am thinking about King Springs and Koni's or 4-Way now

you can't say 'I think' when it comes to Nissan. Mate has a 4500 turbo and apart from lousy service..when things went wrong they first pointed the finger at him....engine that would suddenly die for no reason then run well. He had electric fuel pumps that burnt out and they couldn't find the reason. He found the fault not Nissan..turned out to be ill fitting electrical connectors. and they have all the gizmo's. Vowed never to buy an other one and he has owned 3 patrols.
Crap.

Don't trust em! so if you can get them to agree to the mods they can't bite you in the ass later!

RN

RoadNazi wrote:you can't say 'I think' when it comes to Nissan. Mate has a 4500 turbo and apart from lousy service..when things went wrong they first pointed the finger at him....engine that would suddenly die for no reason then run well. He had electric fuel pumps that burnt out and they couldn't find the reason. He found the fault not Nissan..turned out to be ill fitting electrical connectors. and they have all the gizmo's. Vowed never to buy an other one and he has owned 3 patrols.
Crap.

Don't trust em! so if you can get them to agree to the mods they can't bite you in the ass later!

RN

You'll find a story like this on just about any vehicle and for every story like this you'll also find one that contradicts it. No matter how good or bad the vehicle may be it will always come down to the bloke swinging the spanner.

I fitted 33's to my 2003 Gu without a lift no problems.
Now I have a 3" lift and 35's with some rubbing at the top.
Next week I'm getting a 2" body lift put in. The air bags will need to be disconected if you go for a body lift. Some guys on the GU Yahoo group were saying that there was less room in the guards on the new patrol. Find this hard to believe. Would've thought that just the shape of the flares had changed.....

pic of 3" lift (more like 2" loaded) and 35's.......


I have used King Springs SP3 and Koni shocks. I have found that the Kings are a bit too soft and will soo have Dobinsons in. For a 4" lift you may need to get the re-valved Koni truck shocks to get the extra length.

Here's my new 2in lift with 33's.

I have found that the Kings are a bit too soft and will soo have Dobinsons in.

I think you just needed a heavier duty spring, the guy you bought them off probably needed to spend more time with you to figure out what you want out of your springs.
For a 2 inch GQ/GU lift Koni's are $180 each. Springs are $140 a pair.

Is EFS a good brand? never heard of them really

Yes they are good shocks up to 3 inch lift maybe higher, never have a problem. They are $90 each for Outerlimits guys.

My 4" lift with 36's & no body lift. Spring lifts can create a few steering drama's but body lifts leave chassie rails fuel tanks & cross members lower than need be in my humble opinion.

For the price and reputation (yet to find someone who has anything negative about EFS) they arn't bad.

PM "Rock Hopper", he can do you a kit about $600 cheaper then what EFS themself will supply it for - fucking cheap.

edit: if anyone is interested in going in with me for a group buy for suspension PM me - it works out about $50 cheaper for all of us, and hell if you are going to buy suspension anyway its a free carton of crownies - I am looking to buy mine in the next week or two at the most.

Panels looking a bit rough now Robbo......

Bar looks good tho..

Yes johnno it is in this pic but as we speak its getting all prettied up at the panel shop. The other side is much worse. Yeh the bar came out ok but needs to be a bit neater around a couple of the bends.

Any of you guys with a 2 " lift mid measuring from the top of the wheel hub to the flare for me front and back? I recently fitted what was supposed to be 2" lifted springs but me thinks they are more like 3"

But I do need to know for the c*nt insurance company

xplot wrote:Getting a GU Patrol Ute 2005 brand new 4.2ltr donk. Now i was thinking on getting a 3 inch lift with 1 inch body lift, or just get a 4 inch lift kit? which one would be better and why? I wanna get 33 inch tyres on the donk.

Do not put a body lift in it just get the required spring height you want. Body lift is more trouble than it's worth and by the sounds of it you don't really need it as I doubt your GU will be a comp truck.

2" will clear 33's easy
4" will be overkill, but work offroad great.

Remember whatever you choose reinforce the rear spring mounts to save $$$$ down th track

xplot wrote:Is EFS a good brand? never heard of them really

Got EFS in my shorty (but dobinsons springs). Not bad so far no problems.