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silverstone mt-117

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:11 pm
by viperguy
hey..who can tell me anything bout these tyres? i have 5 available to me at a very cheap price with 80% tread and spare is new. they are 280/85/16 and i intend to run on my shorty mav..measure up to be just a tad over 35inch in the old money. they say on the tyre that they are tube type.. does that mean i must run with a tube? guy is providing tubes in the deal.

what conditions are these tyres good for? mud rocks etc..are they a good option? can i go wrong with these tyres?

they are the older style with the solid bar of tread goin right around centre of tyre...

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:15 pm
by toughnut
Which version of the MT-117 are they? Sport, extreme etc.

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:28 pm
by viperguy
on the silverstone web site they are just listed as mt-117..not the sport or the extreme..

Re: silverstone mt-117

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:30 pm
by +dj_hansen+
viperguy wrote:
they are the older style with the solid bar of tread goin right around centre of tyre...


That would make them the MT-117 sport.

Alllot of people have had very good experience with these tyres, Mudtoy, Big Red Toy, RV.. so perhaps PM them and ask them... one thing said recently was that they are fairly heavy (BRT said his 33" were heavier than a Q78 swamper)

Other than that... seem to be a good alround tyre :D

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:39 pm
by viperguy
what the go with the tube tyre thingy? must a tube be used for these? would a tube be a weakness when thrashing tyres?

just checked silverstone website again.. they just list as mt-117..has different tyres showing for extreme and sports..

Re: silverstone mt-117

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:02 pm
by ISUZUROVER
+dj_hansen+ wrote:
viperguy wrote:
they are the older style with the solid bar of tread goin right around centre of tyre...


That would make them the MT-117 sport.


NO - that would make it the original MT117 crosply. Not the sport or extreme.

The old style MT117's work well for the price - the were around $210 new (I think the later DOT approved ones cost more), and even better when the centre rib is grooved.

The reason they are some tyres are marked tube type is that the bead may not seal well in a tubeless application.

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:12 am
by bogged
viperguy wrote:would a tube be a weakness when thrashing tyres?

you will find lots of people running low pressures without beadlocks run tubes...
Thrashing. high speed I presume?

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:29 pm
by GRIMACE
There a failry good tire and are long lasting on and off road.

It is a plain MT-117 (not sport or Extreme) bias bly construction (not radial) they are eqivalent to a 36"
I have herd many great reports about these tyres and for around $200 each you can really go wrong brand new :)

You run tubes with them cause thats what it says on the sidewall.


Cheers
Anthony

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:48 pm
by Ryano
The main difference between tube type tyres and tubeless is that most tube type have a different angle to the bead (which can be a slight problem with tubeless rims) and also no inner liner.
A tubeless tyre has an innerliner consisting of a product called halobutyl which seals the air inside the tyre.
A tube type tyre doesn't have this and is therefor porous.

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:49 pm
by DaveS3
There was a few threads on these bias ones.

Daddylonglegs & Lockee used to run them.

Dave.

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:33 pm
by viperguy
fitted them onto rims today so i can take them out for a test wheel.. put 'em on 16x8 sunnies..with tubes. what pressures do people recommend? bought the rims new and had the tyres and rims balanced...took a bout a house brick each side to balance. look the goods.

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:49 pm
by Dozoor
Don,t know about a heavy car but on the zook any thing over 15psi and they where only running on the centre rib ,

:lol:

If you decide to cut the centre tread they will wear heaps faster ,

Beware wet roads !! :shock: They can get Very spincher !

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:37 am
by professor
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oh hell yeah makes the road like ice. :shock:

other than that they are a great allrounder.

These are my set. the old style.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:50 am
by viperguy
had my first drive on these last night.. a few laps round merrylands then st marys and back on the m4 freeway...these things are just plain ugly on the tarmac..my fillings dislodged. like driving corrugations that never end. ran 36 psi at first then aired down to 25..at 36 they were horrible, at 25 they were almost horrible.

offroad testing will come tonight...

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:56 am
by viperguy
here is a pic of them mounted on my mav shorty..

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:59 am
by viperguy
another..complete with party balloons from sisters wedding on the weekend...can u believe it? who gets married tuff truck weekend?

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:04 pm
by mudtoy
For the price, they are the best off road traction you can get.
I regularly run mine at 5 psi and without bead locks...no problems.
Won the mud season on them last year.
Have also run them tubeless with no problems but would always recommend tubes.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:08 pm
by MQ080
Are they a recap?

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:48 pm
by RV80
MQ080 wrote:Are they a recap?


No

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 8:11 pm
by viperguy
had a nice testing session last night in the wollemi state forest with a few members off here.. at 25 psi didnt bag a bit...rode on centre rib and had not much traction.. aired down to 14 and these things came alive..need to chop the centre rib but to get full potential but showed plenty promise.. sawing the steering left/right always found lugs that were willing to grab. next trip will air doiwn to about 8 and see how it goes..

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 8:14 pm
by RV80
viperguy wrote:need to chop the centre rib but to get full potential but showed plenty promise...


I attacked mine :D . I'll get some pick's on tomorrow.