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Supercharging and Turboing
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:11 pm
by Doggy
Just out of curiousity, can you both super charge and turbo a motor. Is it possible or is there just to much plumbing and farking around. Im not interested in doing either to my 4b, the question just popped into my head today
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:18 pm
by mickyd555
sounds like a lot of farking around for nothing...........pop that idea back out the other side...........
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:27 pm
by A12
I have seen it done, 4AGZTE. 1.6l with a supercharger and a turbo, close to 200kw.
Greg
Re: Supercharging and Turboing
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:48 pm
by Daisy
Sir Rollsalot wrote:Just out of curiousity, can you both super charge and turbo a motor. Is it possible or is there just to much plumbing and farking around. Im not interested in doing either to my 4b, the question just popped into my head today
yup can be done.
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 10:16 pm
by Doggy
mickyd555 wrote:sounds like a lot of farking around for nothing...........pop that idea back out the other side...........
Dont worry micky....alot of shit pops into my head, I'll just squeeze it out theback and file it under P for potatoes and pumpkins
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 10:17 pm
by 360 scout
theres a LC torana around at the moment think it's from brissy been in street machine etc saw it at the rocky car show big block chev ,6/71 blower twin hair driers.
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 11:48 pm
by Shorty40
Aren't some larger trucks both supercharged and tubo charged ?
Volvos maybe
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:22 am
by Hoonz
Bandag Bullet - Technical Specifications
Make and Model Kenworth T400
Engine Two V8 92-Series Detroit Diesel engines fitted with two blowers, four turbo chargers and injected with nitrous oxide. The original 75mm injectors have been increased to 260mm. Pistons, conrods, crankshaft and camshaft have been balanced. Cylinder heads and air boxes have been ported and polished.
Capacity 24 litres (1500 cubic inches)
Horsepower 2200hp @ 3000rpm - 2800hp nitrous oxide boost
Torque 5600 ft/lb
Transmission Aliison Auto-manual shift - CR 6000
Rear Axle Eaton 2300-series with Detroit no spin locker
Rear Suspension Ladder bar with Watts link assembly
Weight 8 tonnes
Driver Frank Gaffiero
Construction Frank and Charlie Gaffiero
Tyres Standard Bandag Retreads
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 5:06 am
by Carl Coight
On industrial motors such as the larger Cat, Detroit, Cummins etc They all run 4 and sometimes 8 turbos. These are 30lt up to 110lt rear dump truck engines.
Some of the old GM's ran both the blower and turbos.
Carl
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 6:44 pm
by bill_
Hoonz wrote:Bandag Bullet
= the shit! love the flames through the tyre smoke
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:11 pm
by revin
bill_ wrote:Hoonz wrote:Bandag Bullet
= the shit! love the flames through the tyre smoke
I remember seeing the orginal bandag bullet truck years ago aswell as Waltz in matilda (the kenworth that blew out windows at the indy
)
There is also a ski boat with a studybaker motor my friends friend has that we ski behing its supercharged and turboed .
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:00 am
by GQ TROL
Stephen Booth's GU race truck was supercharged and turbocharged at one point. Think they had issues with it, so they reverted back to turbo only.
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:24 pm
by stephen
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:35 pm
by beretta
Detroit ran both in their truck motors, 1292,892, 692 etc. They are pretty old now, but they got some very large power out of em. Can be done, but wonder how practical given todays advanced ahir dyers or blowers.
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 7:11 pm
by Shadow
there are toyota engines that come factory both supercharged and turbocharged
the supercharger is normally fittted with an electric clutch and the computer disengages the supercharger at a certain revs for the larger capacity turbo to take over.
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:58 pm
by Dzltec
The early detroit engines had to be supercharged as they were a 2 stoke engine. Without the blower they would not work. More power then required the turbo chargers to be added.
Why not do two turbos, one feeding the other. Cummins have a 5.9l diesel dragster that does 7.98 sec 1/4 miles, it runs 2 turbos, 80 psi boost.
Cheers
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:08 pm
by twinnie
oh an idears topic i like these
i have always thaught it might be posible to make a free wheeling super charger/turbo so at 2500 and below the belt drives the compresser and above that the turbo kicks in so you always have boost.
i'll do a sketch if people need to see the idear
Matt