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virtual lift discussion
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:06 pm
by jabtronic
Time for a new thread on this as all the older ones have no pics..
I'm about to do a virtual lift on my zook, and to those who have done it I am wondering about a few things.
1. How much did you raise the guard?
2. Which method did you find easiest to cut the body?
Cutting it into tabs and folding them up,
Cutting the inside panel shorter than the outside panel and folding the outer panel in and over,
or just cutting the whole lot off?
3. When the guard mount/base is tack-welded back on, is there any gap between the guard and the panel? If so, what did you use to fill it? A strip of rubber perhaps?
4. How did you go about tidying the job up under the arches? Did you use a sealant etc?
5. Got any detailed pics?
Cheers
Re: virtual lift discussion
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:09 pm
by SAWZALL
jabtronic wrote:Time for a new thread on this as all the older ones have no pics..
I'm about to do a virtual lift on my zook, and to those who have done it I am wondering about a few things.
1. How much did you raise the guard?
2. Which method did you find easiest to cut the body?
Cutting it into tabs and folding them up,
Cutting the inside panel shorter than the outside panel and folding the outer panel in and over,
or just cutting the whole lot off?
3. When the guard mount/base is tack-welded back on, is there any gap between the guard and the panel? If so, what did you use to fill it? A strip of rubber perhaps?
4. How did you go about tidying the job up under the arches? Did you use a sealant etc?
5. Got any detailed pics?
Cheers
1) To the lip
2) Tabs
3) Yes. Strip of 2mm steel
4) Sikaflex
5) Nah sorry
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:15 pm
by christover1
I used a bare hacksaw blade and cloth to cut strips in the curved part of inner guard. lots of pop rivets and tar paint to hide the mess. for head light bucket, I removed metal and replaced with rubber sheet hidden with more tar....welding be much neater, but me dont have one.
christover
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:09 am
by ZOOK60
here mine with vrtual lift probly about the most you can lift the flares
Re: virtual lift discussion
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:38 am
by Drewfus
SAWZALL wrote:jabtronic wrote:Time for a new thread on this as all the older ones have no pics..
I'm about to do a virtual lift on my zook, and to those who have done it I am wondering about a few things.
1. How much did you raise the guard?
2. Which method did you find easiest to cut the body?
Cutting it into tabs and folding them up,
Cutting the inside panel shorter than the outside panel and folding the outer panel in and over,
or just cutting the whole lot off?
3. When the guard mount/base is tack-welded back on, is there any gap between the guard and the panel? If so, what did you use to fill it? A strip of rubber perhaps?
4. How did you go about tidying the job up under the arches? Did you use a sealant etc?
5. Got any detailed pics?
Cheers
1) To the lip
2) Tabs
3) Yes. Strip of 2mm steel
4) Sikaflex
5) Nah sorry
I did the cut and weld/grind and paint thing, but now I wish thad I'd had saved my time and just did the 'cut tabs & fold/ cover it up with spray deadener' deal.
Cheers,
Drewfus
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:54 am
by sierrajim
the rear of mine before i cut the back off. With a 35" bogger in the hole.
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:05 am
by jabtronic
Thanks guys

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:38 am
by stumped
sierrajim wrote:the rear of mine before i cut the back off. With a 35" bogger in the hole.
that's hell tidy... what method did u use to do it? got any build pics?
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:42 am
by DeWsE
stumped wrote:sierrajim wrote:the rear of mine before i cut the back off. With a 35" bogger in the hole.
that's hell tidy... what method did u use to do it? got any build pics?
It's been tubbed with new steel I think.
I like the boggers and rims!
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:18 pm
by stumped
stumped wrote:sierrajim wrote:the rear of mine before i cut the back off. With a 35" bogger in the hole.
that's hell tidy... what method did u use to do it? got any build pics?

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:35 am
by CHOPS1
Anyone else done the virtual lately, any more pics and advice? Thinking of doing it.
Chop
Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:54 am
by HotAe92
so what is a virtual lift and what does it do?
I can sorta see what is happening in pics.
Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:07 am
by jeep97tj
pics
Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:09 am
by jeep97tj
finished at about 1am
Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:12 am
by jeep97tj
8 hours later....
Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:36 am
by Rhett
Il dig up some pics of mine
Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:44 am
by Rhett
I lfted mine bout as much as I could keeping a stardard flare
Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 6:22 pm
by CHOPS1
Jeez rhett that flare is up high now! How do you get around the fuel cap?
If i go this way i'll have to get a new guard and re route my snorkel.
Chop
Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:14 pm
by Gwagensteve
Respect Rhett, that's acoolooking car, but I think many of these "virtual lifts" are missing the point.
The restriction on lift vs tyre size on a sierra is the headlight bucket and the firewall. If you move rhett's tyre up on compression, it will hit both the firewall and the headlight bucket before it gets within a bulls roar of the top of the guard.
IMHO the biggest reason to lift the wheelarch on a sierra is to allow you to open the front and back of the guard up and still have a proportional looking wheelarch.
Once this is done, it is just possible to get he tyre to brush the top of the stock wheelarch opening and not jam up on the firewall, but this is with RUF, about 50mm out of the firewall and cut right up into the back of the headlight bucket, 2" bumpstop spacers, and a 2" BL, running a 35.
The headlight bucket problem is why so many sierras have tube front ends.
PS chrsitover, can you post a photo of Noel's car? This shows a virtual lift pretty well.
Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:24 pm
by redzook
the end closest to the sills i left at stock height so on the front i only lifted the front of the flair and the rear just lifted the rear ill post a pic so u get what i mean
also with the diffs pushed out that far its harder to see it with the flairs angled the way i did it
you will notice the amount of room i have at the firewall with a 37" tire yet the front diff dosent look way out infront of the wheel well
Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:29 pm
by christover1
Gwagensteve wrote:
PS chrsitover, can you post a photo of Noel's car? This shows a virtual lift pretty well.
Will have a look thru my collection
Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:34 pm
by lay80n
Look at stumped's build up in the members thread, Toysuzi has just done a heap of work on Steve's old tintop to fix it after a roll. Tons of pics there on virtual lift ETC.
Layto....
Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:35 pm
by christover1
Gwagensteve wrote:
PS chrsitover, can you post a photo of Noel's car? This shows a virtual lift pretty well.
I try to find some clearer ones.
ooops, now how did that one get accidently uploaded

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:46 pm
by redzook
christover1 have u posted a picture revalent to this thread yet i cant see one side on picture

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:54 pm
by HotAe92
alright, so from what i have gathered, a virtual lift is where u bash/mould arches higher up body so that you have extra room to clear for articulation and larger tyres, instead of a body or spring lift.
Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:56 pm
by lay80n
HotAe92 wrote:alright, so from what i have gathered, a virtual lift is where u bash/mould arches higher up body so that you have extra room to clear for articulation and larger tyres, instead of a body or spring lift.
Not so much bash/mould but more CUT.
Layto....
Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:18 pm
by christover1
redzook wrote:christover1 have u posted a picture revalent to this thread yet i cant see one side on picture

We haven't got any poser shots, no posers in our club
I'll try to find a better one
Nope, nothing car park style, sorry

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:21 pm
by redzook
grimbo left?

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:28 pm
by christover1
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 10:18 am
by grimbo
redzook wrote:grimbo left?

ha ha ha