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6inch lift removed now how come steering wheel is out by 180
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:42 am
by bruiser
The cruiser has gone from a 6inch lift back down to standard
Since removal the steering wheel is 180 degrees out.
Do I need to adjsut the drag link?
Do I need to adjust steering dampner position?
Or do I just need to rotate the steering wheel on the collum?
Any help appreciated.
Thanks
Steve
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:25 am
by beefa125
I dont think it would have to do with the steering dampner, I fitted a lift and steering dampner to my hilux with no problems,
Beefa
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:23 pm
by muzza_fattire
Probably the panhard rod if it is still adjusted for the 6 inch lift.
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:42 pm
by bruiser
have put standard panhards back on.
Should the wheel be 180 degrees out how do I correct?
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:45 pm
by ozy1
it will be out cause as you lowerd the rig, the steering arm angle has lowered also, this turning the wheel, pull wheel , and re centre i say, and make sure you have equal turns to left and right lock,
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:50 pm
by plowy
like the others said the pan hard rod
lookin at the front of the car is the axle sittin to one side of the car ?
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:55 pm
by bruiser
so I have to remove wheel and turn on shaft then put back on?
Is this what was done when the lift was installed?

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:09 pm
by plowy
Tidy42 wrote:like the others said the pan hard rod
lookin at the front of the car is the axle sittin to one side of the car ?
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:46 pm
by bruiser
LIKE I SAID
Supension is back to stock and I have put the stock panhards back on.
The axle is centred spot on.

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:50 pm
by MQ080
Either pull the wheel off and recentre it or do it properly at a steering place. Eventhough when you lift a vehicle you add lengthened components such as shocks and springs, not everything is done, so stress is placed on steering components and this usually results in more turn in one direction than the other.
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:51 pm
by plowy
settle down buddy ,sorry didn't see that
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:05 pm
by Gribble
It will be the angle of your steering rod from the steering box to the hub.
When you lower it, technically the steering rod becomes longer. Just have a good look at it. You will see what i mean.
Oh, and thats also the reason your steering moves when the wheels travel up and down.
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:06 pm
by DamTriton
Did you disconnect the steering at the rag joint/universal joint and reattatch it 180 degrees out of phase?
If it was simply a nudge fron the realignment then the steering would not be equal side-to-side, ie 1.5 turns one way and 3 turns the other to the limits on the worm and sector in the steering box. (or some other significanly different amount).
Disconnect the drag link (pitman end) and try to work out where the center point is in the steering at the pitman arm (spinning steering wheel side to side). Adjust the drag link to length (wheels straight ahead by eye - roughly at this stage) and check the orientation of the steering wheel.
If the steering wheel is 180 degrees or so, out then you may need to adjust the UJ/rag joint alignment (this may also have been done when the lift was installed for the same reason). If you have a splined UJ in the shaft this can be adjusted a little more accurately than the rag joint (obviously). At this point a more accurate alignment should be able to be done with the drag link adjusted for the fraction of a turn needed to get the steering wheel correctly centered.
All in all this should get everything as centered as possible.
Centering the steering wheel on the steering shaft (steering wheel end) should not be attempted if you have an airbag fitted, unless you know how to disarm the system. (covering my arse disclaimer)
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:36 pm
by Gribble
GaryInOz wrote:Centering the steering wheel on the steering shaft (steering wheel end) should not be attempted if you have an airbag fitted, unless you know how to disarm the system. (covering my arse disclaimer)
Dont listen to him. Do it, you know you want to! C'mon, its not worse than having 5 shades of shit beaten out of you by Mike Tyson.

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:48 pm
by crankycruiser
bruiser wrote:so I have to remove wheel and turn on shaft then put back on?
Is this what was done when the lift was installed?

Thats right...
all u have to do is pul the wheel off and turn it round..
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:05 pm
by bruiser
no air bag.
Wonder if anyone here has been stupid enough to do this.
Re: 6inch lift removed now how come steering wheel is out by
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:12 pm
by bogged
bruiser wrote:The cruiser has gone from a 6inch lift back down to standard for my insurance claim.
your insurance company would like to thank you for posting this on a public forum..
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:14 pm
by DamTriton
bruiser wrote:no air bag.
Wonder if anyone here has been stupid enough to do this.
From mates in the panel beating industry, yes it has happened. It isn't the actual bag you need to be careful of, it is the igniter on the underside. The metal frame supporting it apparently can make quite a mess of you......
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:31 pm
by bruiser
The lift was not on at the time of damage.

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:37 pm
by dwaynes
well i am wondering what has caused this as my gq does the same sort of thing when changing from a factory rim off set and 31"s to cruiser offset and 32"s my sterring is out by quarter a turn swap back and all is good.
so if there is any more info on this it would come in very handy
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:46 pm
by ozy1
dwaynes wrote:well i am wondering what has caused this as my gq does the same sort of thing when changing from a factory rim off set and 31"s to cruiser offset and 32"s my sterring is out by quarter a turn swap back and all is good.
so if there is any more info on this it would come in very handy
changine tyres should not affect the position of your steering wheel, unless you talking about loosing a quater of a turn either way to lock, then you tyres coulkd be hittin something.
Re: 6inch lift removed now how come steering wheel is out by
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:16 pm
by Monty
bogged wrote:bruiser wrote:The cruiser has gone from a 6inch lift back down to standard for my insurance claim.
your insurance company would like to thank you for posting this on a public forum..
Cant agree more,
I wouldnt be doing it you could get done for insurance fraud and get passed around the gaols like a piece of meat
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:12 pm
by dow50r
Dude
The distance from your steering box to your diff has decreased by about 6 inches...so does the length of the drag link if you want the steering wheel to be straight.
Andrew
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:19 pm
by Gribble
dow50r wrote:Dude
The distance from your steering box to your diff has decreased by about 6 inches...so does the length of the drag link if you want the steering wheel to be straight.
Andrew
Prolly not that much, but at least 2" id say.
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:24 am
by roberts
have you had a wheel alighment aftyer the lift was done may have some thing to do with it
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:20 pm
by Area54
adjust the system via the splined section on the steering shaft/ragjoint/steering box, don;t remove the wheel from the shaft. the shaft in the column is setup to receive the steering lock mech and indicator release mech, if you rotate the shaft in relation to the wheel this lock mech will engage at a different position to what you are used to, might also affect the indicator release mech - meaning the indicators might not release when you turn a corner. the release mech is checked for correct operation during a pit inspection.