Outer Limits 4x4 Board

i noticed today after the car wash that when i push the clutch in only slightly there is a ringing noise and when it is all the way in, it sounds like a grinding/airy noise.

is it fubar? any suggestions?

thanks

Peter

what you said is exactly how my old MK sounded went in to get a new clutch and they commented that it was the worst mess of a clutch that they had seen in a long time

dwaynes wrote:what you said is exactly how my old MK sounded went in to get a new clutch and they commented that it was the worst mess of a clutch that they had seen in a long time

could be ya bearings too

have been told by someone that it could possibly be the thrust bearing. anyway, the bloody box needs to come out to have a look

kekeke all part of maintence ...

maintence .. every 4wders pet hate

Hoonz wrote:kekeke all part of maintence ...

maintence .. every 4wders pet hate

yeah. but what are your thoughts? tell me you pull apart your g/box after every trip to have a look

sounds like the trust bearing to me
And if ya going to fix that, while you got the gearbox out, might as well change the clutch too

Or put an auto in it , a bigger motor pehaps

Mock

hottiemonster wrote:

Hoonz wrote:kekeke all part of maintence ...

maintence .. every 4wders pet hate

yeah. but what are your thoughts? tell me you pull apart your g/box after every trip to have a look

Dont have mud up there

Mock

ahh we have mud up here .. but not the same amount you guys have down there .... also mud up here is ultra hard to get off if left to dry

i try to stay away from it as much as possible ... prefer to drive on the rocks and hill climbs n stuff

hottiemonster wrote:

Hoonz wrote:kekeke all part of maintence ...

maintence .. every 4wders pet hate

yeah. but what are your thoughts? tell me you pull apart your g/box after every trip to have a look

No but I had the same dramas with the 5spd & V8 conversion in my MQ.

I spen a few hours ( after I pulled the V8 out ) and sealed up the bellhousing so shyte couldnt get in there in the first place..... a dab of silicone here and a dab there...... sweet !

I still get "some" water in the bellhousing but its such a minor amount it no-longer effects the clutch or thrust bearing anymore.

My drama started after a 5' deep river xing .....
drove another 50 metres and killed the motor, set up camp and stayed for the w/end without restarting the rig....
The water in the bellhousing "rusted" ( for want of a better word) the clutch plate to the flywheel and pressure plate....it was as if the clucth had seized rock solid !...... after I got it started and moving ( tow start) I pulled it into neutral and then worked the throttle hard.....on the power /off the power till it free'd up again.... then I pushed the clutch in and the thrust bearing howled like a virgin in a whore house..... it too had rusted up while sitting for the 2 days.
The front gearbox shaft was also gritty from rust and its still a little rough in its movement when using the clutch..... a "gritty feel" when ya push the pedal in every time to this day !

Kingy

well i dropped the car off at the mechanics just then to have a look. i havent got the equipment at home to do it myself.

after speaking to people on here and his opinion, its most likely the thrust bearing. the car should be ready on wendesday.

also the guy said that the spivot? bearing is a good thing to get done too while the g/box is out?

i told him that if the clutch is worn down, that i want a new one in becasue it means less work to do later, so after he pullings the g/box out, i will then know what will be done to the car.

thanks guys for the input.

Peter

ljxtreem wrote:sounds like the trust bearing to me
And if ya going to fix that, while you got the gearbox out, might as well change the clutch too

Or put an auto in it , a bigger motor pehaps

Mock

wouldnt mind a v8 but $$$ arent good at the moment. i was going to sell my centipedes real soon to get a new set, but they just have to wait now

Hoonz wrote:ahh we have mud up here .. but not the same amount you guys have down there .... also mud up here is ultra hard to get off if left to dry

same here in some places.

Hoonz wrote:ahh we have mud up here .. but not the same amount you guys have down there .... also mud up here is ultra hard to get off if left to dry

i try to stay away from it as much as possible ... prefer to drive on the rocks and hill climbs n stuff

I also heard you can damage your 4x4 from rocks & hills, sands gets into stuff too, so you shouldn't do beach either.

hottiemonster wrote:

Hoonz wrote:kekeke all part of maintence ...

maintence .. every 4wders pet hate

yeah. but what are your thoughts? tell me you pull apart your g/box after every trip to have a look

change to an auto.. no clutch.. better all round

bogged wrote:

hottiemonster wrote:

Hoonz wrote:kekeke all part of maintence ...

maintence .. every 4wders pet hate

yeah. but what are your thoughts? tell me you pull apart your g/box after every trip to have a look

change to an auto.. no clutch.. better all round

Auto's are easier to pull apart after every trip?

staying with manual will be cheaper i dont mind the manual either.

change to an auto.. no clutch.. better all round[/quote]

tried roll starting an auto.

filled my started motor with mud a few times, and only way to get going was roll start. thank god i didnt have an auto

it definatly sounds like a throwout bearing. and spigot bearing wouldnt be a bad idea to replace that either. im dredding the day mine needs to be done. there a huge box (td42). i did a clutch on an 8 last weeka nd that was bad enough. but i spose if we want to play these games we just have to wear the concequences

Rainbow Warrior wrote:Auto's are easier to pull apart after every trip?

you dont have to thats the beauty....

well called the mechanic today, the thrust bearing is completely fubar and same as the clutch.

geting a daiken clutch fitted, machining the flywheel, new rubber boot on clutch fork.

lots of $$$

now its time to stay outta the bogs way to expensive.

what are they daiken clutches like? and will they be allright for my application?

thanks

Peter

hehe, thats funny now i wonder which bog it was that buggered it
I'll give it a week & you'll be doin walkers or something again& bugger it again but hey its worth it

unless its walkers

i think christmas day was the one that caused it, 1.5 hrs in a bog hole = carnage a couple of months later

yeah sounds right, well if it was that day then that day is responsible for 2 clutchs then right?

So all is fixed & how much?

Big Red Toy wrote:yeah sounds right, well if it was that day then that day is responsible for 2 clutchs then right?

So all is fixed & how much?

will find out tomorrow

my clutch ( GQ SWB TB42 ) makes are very slight rubbing sort of groaning sound when the motor is cold of a morning, when the clutch is in.... put in neutral no dramas... and if i push the clutch down a few times it stops...

doesnt do it wen cold....

u reckon its thrust bearing also??

screwy

hottiemonster wrote:also the guy said that the spivot? bearing is a good thing to get done too while the g/box is out?

Peter

Sprigot bearing. The shaft goes from gearbox, splined through clutch plate, thrust bearing, and the end of the shaft goes to the sprigot bearing at the back the engine.



Thrust bearing is usually noiser when clutch in engaged, or when it you just start to put clutch in. If you slowly move clutch in and out, you should hear the noise change.