5mge into hilux, 7mge into hilux
Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 8:31 pm
Hi there I am from New Zealand and have a 97 double cab hilux that has a 22r. Being in New Zealand my steering etc is on the right hand side and my ute is also only a 2wd model.
It is only street driven but I thought I would ask on here you you guys seem a like a good wealth of knowledge.
Originally I was planning an engine conversion of a 1uz-fe or a commodore 3.8 v6. I have changed my mind however to try and do something a bit cheaper. What I am now looking at is a 5mge or a 7mge.
As I am probally more likely to find a donor vehicle with a 5mge engine in it (celica,supra, cressida) I am going to set my sights on that as I believe from what I have read so far it should be quite a nice smooth engoine with a rebuild for the hilux.
This is the way I sort of think the conversion would go
Obtain donor vehicle with 5mge, preferably manual, preferable 84+ model (I think they changed in 84 didnt they? better ecu and intake manifold or something? please confirm)
Use 5mge mounts to mount engine to 22r lower mounts, small moddification to bolt hole spacing I believe?
5mge manual bellhousing, or 7mge, basically a w series supra bellhousing, to bolt engine up to my g52 gearbox. This is a tempory gearbox just to make the job faster and get the ute back up and running. When funds allow/ and the time comes I will replace with a w56/w58 gearbox
5mge flywheel, heavy duty clutch
Continue using hilux fuel tank, new external inline pump? what options do I have here? where to mount? what sort of pump?
Wire up loom
get power steering all hooked up, mayb custom work involved there
2 10" electric fans on the front of radiator, hilux radiator ok to use?
Is there any clearance issues with the 5mge? Do I need to change to a 7mge sump? my ute has IFS torsion bars any of that assembly get in the way? steering on the right hand side get in the way? exhaust options?
If I find a automatic 5mge such as a cressida is the loom different at all? is it electric auto or anything like that? and will it all bolt up the same aslong as I source a manual supra bellhousing flywheel and clutch.
I plan on giving the 5mge a rebuild before I put it in, new rings, bearings, gasket set, seals, belts, water and oil pumps. Also thinking about getting the head port and polished as I heard it is a good improvment for this engine.
Am I on the right track? I think it is a good bang for buck conversion and I should be able to do it for quite cheap if I wait to find a good but cheap donor car.
If I get lucky and come accross a 7mge donor, it is pretty much the same isnt it? except use 5mge mounts and 22r lower part of mounts. 7mge clutch flywheel, When rebuilding 7mge use metal head gasket, arp head bolts, and retension about 20 pound more than factory
Any clearance issues with 7mge?
Thankyou in advace for any info and help.
It is only street driven but I thought I would ask on here you you guys seem a like a good wealth of knowledge.
Originally I was planning an engine conversion of a 1uz-fe or a commodore 3.8 v6. I have changed my mind however to try and do something a bit cheaper. What I am now looking at is a 5mge or a 7mge.
As I am probally more likely to find a donor vehicle with a 5mge engine in it (celica,supra, cressida) I am going to set my sights on that as I believe from what I have read so far it should be quite a nice smooth engoine with a rebuild for the hilux.
This is the way I sort of think the conversion would go
Obtain donor vehicle with 5mge, preferably manual, preferable 84+ model (I think they changed in 84 didnt they? better ecu and intake manifold or something? please confirm)
Use 5mge mounts to mount engine to 22r lower mounts, small moddification to bolt hole spacing I believe?
5mge manual bellhousing, or 7mge, basically a w series supra bellhousing, to bolt engine up to my g52 gearbox. This is a tempory gearbox just to make the job faster and get the ute back up and running. When funds allow/ and the time comes I will replace with a w56/w58 gearbox
5mge flywheel, heavy duty clutch
Continue using hilux fuel tank, new external inline pump? what options do I have here? where to mount? what sort of pump?
Wire up loom
get power steering all hooked up, mayb custom work involved there
2 10" electric fans on the front of radiator, hilux radiator ok to use?
Is there any clearance issues with the 5mge? Do I need to change to a 7mge sump? my ute has IFS torsion bars any of that assembly get in the way? steering on the right hand side get in the way? exhaust options?
If I find a automatic 5mge such as a cressida is the loom different at all? is it electric auto or anything like that? and will it all bolt up the same aslong as I source a manual supra bellhousing flywheel and clutch.
I plan on giving the 5mge a rebuild before I put it in, new rings, bearings, gasket set, seals, belts, water and oil pumps. Also thinking about getting the head port and polished as I heard it is a good improvment for this engine.
Am I on the right track? I think it is a good bang for buck conversion and I should be able to do it for quite cheap if I wait to find a good but cheap donor car.
If I get lucky and come accross a 7mge donor, it is pretty much the same isnt it? except use 5mge mounts and 22r lower part of mounts. 7mge clutch flywheel, When rebuilding 7mge use metal head gasket, arp head bolts, and retension about 20 pound more than factory
Any clearance issues with 7mge?
Thankyou in advace for any info and help.
Changing gearbox to a better version later on isnt a biggie, I just mainly want to get the conversion done fast and up and running. May even look a rebuilding g52 to a more heavy duty box if it is an option.
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