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Power steering plumbing, need help
Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 11:15 am
by tomsoffroad
Heres the problem.....
I have a 84 Supra pump on the motor..... I have a IFS steering box from a Surf.
The pump has three pipes. One is the main feed from the reservior, one is the pressure release valve which must go back to the reservior, and the last one goes to the steering box.
My problem is.... Where does the other pipe on the steering box go????
Cheers Thomas
Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 11:19 am
by STUMPY
i think you'll find hat its the return line that runs back to the resevior.
Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 11:21 am
by roberts
dosent it go in a circle
tank----pump----sterring box---tankl
Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 11:29 am
by tomsoffroad
So if the other outlet/inlet on the steering box goes back to the reservior, I'll still end up with extra inlet/outlet on the pump!!!!
There are five inlet/outlet pipes all up!!!
Its got me stuffed
Cheers Thomas
Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 11:53 am
by tomsoffroad
Ah ha. got it sorted
Need another return on the reservior.
Happy happy joy joy
Thanks for your help guys
Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 2:04 pm
by Busiboy
The return lines don't have a real lot of pressure, might be easier to put a t junction in on the return, run 2 hoses instead of three. just make sure the return hose is a larger diameter.
Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 3:58 pm
by tomsoffroad
Busiboy
Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 2:04 pm
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The return lines don't have a real lot of pressure, might be easier to put a t junction in on the return, run 2 hoses instead of three. just make sure the return hose is a larger diameter.
Ended up just adding another return in the reservior.
BUT
The bitch won't work.
I've changed hoses round.
Anyways thrown the toys for today, will have another look tomorrow.
Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 8:12 pm
by RUFF
Never seen a Toyota pump have 3 lines running to it. But i have seen one with an extra fitting that actually took a pressure switch to bump the idle up when you turn at Idle.
Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 8:23 pm
by tomsoffroad
RUFF
Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 8:12 pm
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Never seen a Toyota pump have 3 lines running to it. But i have seen one with an extra fitting that actually took a pressure switch to bump the idle up when you turn at Idle.
Mmmm. No I don't think thats it. But then again I'll look into it 'cos its got me stumped!! Might have to use the last resort......... Consult the manual for a supra!!!
Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 6:55 pm
by killalux
i have a later model supra (7m) pump on mine and it only has two outlets plus the solonoid valve for idle up as ruff mentioned
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 6:38 pm
by tomsoffroad
Well, 7hrs all up to mount and make work power steering. And it still doesn't work. Starting to think that there may be a problem with the steering box.
Oh well, I'll get it sorted eventually
Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 6:59 pm
by eddie
tomsoffroad wrote:Well, 7hrs all up to mount and make work power steering. And it still doesn't work. Starting to think that there may be a problem with the steering box.
Oh well, I'll get it sorted eventually
can ya take a photo of it???
as thay have said there could be a preasure switch out of the pump. all u need to di if it is, is to block it off
eddie
Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 5:25 pm
by tomsoffroad
Heres a pic.
Don't bag me.... I know that the pressure hose is attached to the wrong pipe on the steering box.
I'm having trouble believing its being such a bastard of a thing
Nothing like a good challange!!!!
Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 8:21 pm
by tomsoffroad
Heres a better pic of the pump
Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 10:40 pm
by eddie
hi ya
when u start ya moter have a look in the resv and see if fliud is moving
looks like u have the sencer outlet hooked up to ya box
so fluid is flowing from res to pump then back to res
resv should only have two pipes, one underneath that feeds pipe and one on side that is the return
hope this helps
Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 10:59 pm
by eddie
try this and see if it works
inlet on the box will be the smaller of the two holes
also pipes from pump to box should be crimped high pressuer pipe aswell
Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 4:19 pm
by tomsoffroad
eddie
Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 10:59 pm
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try this and see if it works
inlet on the box will be the smaller of the two holes
also pipes from pump to box should be crimped high pressuer pipe aswell
Yip tried this too. The bottom hose on the pump has pressure (Just ask the garage wall
) The middle one doesn't appear to have any pressure.
I'm starting to think that its the steering box. Is there really anything in an IFS box which can go wrong?
I've seen an exploded diagram of these boxes and they don't appear to have any parts in them which might be sticking.
Cheers
Thomas
Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 9:38 pm
by eddie
tomsoffroad wrote:eddie
Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 10:59 pm
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try this and see if it works
inlet on the box will be the smaller of the two holes
also pipes from pump to box should be crimped high pressuer pipe aswell
Yip tried this too. The bottom hose on the pump has pressure (Just ask the garage wall
) The middle one doesn't appear to have any pressure.
I'm starting to think that its the steering box. Is there really anything in an IFS box which can go wrong?
I've seen an exploded diagram of these boxes and they don't appear to have any parts in them which might be sticking.
Cheers
Thomas
try the middle one as the feed from resv and top one to the box
if that dont work im stuffed lol
other wise do a search on the net and see if u can fine a install diagram
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:43 pm
by tomsoffroad
WHOOO HOOOO
Got it working.
Thanks to everyone who offered advise it was much apreciated.
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:47 pm
by ToNkA
tomsoffroad wrote:WHOOO HOOOO
Got it working.
Thanks to everyone who offered advise it was much apreciated.
Well for those who have been following this thread, care to share what was wrong?
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:58 pm
by eddie
tomsoffroad wrote:WHOOO HOOOO
Got it working.
Thanks to everyone who offered advise it was much apreciated.
so what was the prob??
eddie
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 7:00 pm
by tomsoffroad
eddie
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:58 pm
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tomsoffroad wrote:
WHOOO HOOOO
Got it working.
Thanks to everyone who offered advise it was much apreciated.
so what was the prob??
eddie
ToNkA
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:47 pm
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tomsoffroad wrote:
WHOOO HOOOO
Got it working.
Thanks to everyone who offered advise it was much apreciated.
Well for those who have been following this thread, care to share what was wrong?
Did more research. Found a Supra like the one my motor came out of. Had a really good look. Shifted afew hoses again.......... and again......... and again.
Eddie had it 90% right in this post
eddie
Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 10:59 pm
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try this and see if it works
inlet on the box will be the smaller of the two holes
also pipes from pump to box should be crimped high pressuer pipe aswell
The problem was the two out lets on the pump were ment to be round the other way.
I'm stoked, my truck hasn't had power steering since I put the Supra in in 2002
Thanks again
Thomas
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 8:02 pm
by eddie
all good then
have fun on those tracks again
Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 5:17 am
by tomsoffroad
eddie
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 8:02 pm
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all good then
have fun on those tracks again
Cheers, I will.
Taking it out for a thrashing today and then have a big mission into the rocks next weekend. South Island high country, can't beat it
Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 9:35 am
by hypo
tomsoffroad wrote:eddie
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 8:02 pm
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all good then
have fun on those tracks again
Cheers, I will.
Taking it out for a thrashing today and then have a big mission into the rocks next weekend. South Island high country, can't beat it
make sure u get some wheeling pix hey............
Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 12:13 am
by tomsoffroad