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Ha guys.
I am going to lift my 2004 TJ. I want to put a 5.5" Rubicon long arm kit and 35" on it. is a 5.5" to hight or is this a good set up?
At the mo i'm running 32"s with a 3.5" lift but its not doing it for me.

Hey Dan, if i was you id get in contact with LEXX on here or Ausjeep.

He was selling his fairly new Re 5.5 long arm kit to try something new, and i know he was selling it a bit cheaper that you buy through the shops.

Oh almost forgot, awesom set up and with 35s you will be ready to go.

IMHO 4½LA anyday over a 5½......

to sort of echo what wooders said there are quite a few people in the US who get the 4.5 LA with 3.5 springs.

Why 4.5 and not 5.5??? Is 5.5 to hight for road driving? Ive been talking to Suburban4wd and was told it was the best set up for a TJ. Are there some down sides to having the 5.5 lift?? If some one has a 5.5 and or knows how they are to drive please let me know?
Ive had a 4.5 before but not in a long arm.

my bad before, i was referring to the short arm... but still agree with wooders.

don't have a RE lift so this is not from personal experience... however the 4.5 springs are 4.5" taller over stock and net around 5 3/8 of lift when installed. if you liked being that high before then thats cool.

a fellow TJ'er here in QLD with RE LA 5.5 will attest to his truck being closer to 7" and way too big even with his 37's.

I was also talking to one of the Sydney JP club boys at TTC that has 5.5 springs in and he was going to drop back to 4.5 because he believed his COG was WAAY too high.

I run the RE 5.5" lift, have to say it's great!!!!!!! I run 35" MTR's and 35" Mickey Thompsons. I honestly can't fault this set-up, only as a few people have said it may be a little high for the off camber stuff.

It has great on road handling and just eats it up off road, just make sure that the shocks you get are the right length, there are certain brands which aren't quite long enough.

If you want to know more just PM me.

I'll say it
If you go 5.5 - the OME shockies are too short

andy_noble wrote:I was also talking to one of the Sydney JP club boys at TTC that has 5.5 springs in and he was going to drop back to 4.5 because he believed his COG was WAAY too high.

That'd be Wiz, was out wheeling with him today and it does get scary when he gets into the steep climbs and descents.

I run a 4.5" RE short arm kit and have a 1" body lift, more to allow me to put in the MML than for tyre clearance. I've got 35's and have even had my old 37" Xterrains under the Jeep with this setup. I get full flex with the 35s and no rubbing. The 37s rubbed on the front guards but I've got 3" bumpstop extensions to go in when I find the time which should mean that I could run the Xterrains if I wanted to.

I guess this is just a long winded way of saying that I concur with the majority of the others - 4.5" LA is the way to go if you are running 35s and stock width diffs, especially if you spend more time on the rocks than in the mud as COG becomes more critical and mistakes more costly.

sir_camel wrote:

andy_noble wrote:I was also talking to one of the Sydney JP club boys at TTC that has 5.5 springs in and he was going to drop back to 4.5 because he believed his COG was WAAY too high.

That'd be Wiz, was out wheeling with him today and it does get scary when he gets into the steep climbs and descents.

Yeah I knew it was WIZ, just wasn't naming names

Ooooh , don't get me started on the 5.5s
... i fell for the bigger is better Crap

Seriously , the 4.5" RE coils are the way to go , particulary if you plan to wheel the snot out it ...
or the 3.5s if ya want to get brutal (am thinking about going to these)
Just remember that the RE t/case is virtually bombproof so you'll have no probs in bashing boulders

And yes , OMEs way too short , as are a few other components on the 5.5 kit + there's other dramas too

Remember that Wooders is also a good source for RE gear
www.wooders.com.au

wiz wrote:Ooooh , don't get me started on the 5.5s
... i fell for the bigger is better Crap

Hmm only speaking as a passager... 5.5s 2" BL, 35s and ORI Long arm and we've had no problems.. Lots of wheel travel and it doesnt feel overly top heavy, saying that 4.5s seem to be the vogue at present and it depends where you wheel and what you want out of your vehicle.

But dont believe the hype bigger is better!!

Yeah everyone's jumped on the bandwaggon at the moment of 'smaller is better' about 6 months ago it was 'D30 diffs are shit' .. There will be anohter bandwaggon in another 6 months time.

Speaking for myself, I have a RE5.5" coil setup, and 2" BL. Running 35's but soon to go larger. The setup is tested on difficult terrain and works fine. IT takes some getting used to and you need to have a different driving style.

The key is to understand the modifications you're making, understand WHY you're doing them and exactly what they will achieve. The only way to do this is drive drive drive. Internet forums are a good place to get ideas, but when it comes to making the final decision, you need to work it out yourself, not neccessarily listen to the latest bandwaggon trend.

One thing I will say, if you have that much lift, you must have really good flex. If you don't, then you will find your rig will feel unstable. Also, every inch you go up, you should go 1 to 1.5" wider.

End of rant.

RE 4.5 coils + 1''BL here... no probs whatsoever.

Oh one other thing. I'm not saying 5.5" lift is for everyone. You have to build your rig according to

a) your budget
b) where you want to take it (ie what sort of terrain and how hard do you want to drive)
c) how long you intend on keeping it
d) what's available to you on the market

RE long arm with 5.5 here. Makes my 33's look too small.

Running the 4.5 long arm RE kit and love it...still running 33's but might move to 35's and will be keeping the 4.5 coils...

I'll second what Wooders and Wiz say, you don't need the 5.5 coils in most cases...

but each to there own

`maddog wrote:Yeah everyone's jumped on the bandwaggon at the moment of 'smaller is better' about 6 months ago it was 'D30 diffs are shit' .. .

They are

Wooders wrote:

`maddog wrote:Yeah everyone's jumped on the bandwaggon at the moment of 'smaller is better' about 6 months ago it was 'D30 diffs are shit' .. .

They are

I give up on you guys

I was thinking of upgrading to a Dna27

BTW Ben what new diffs are going into your rig

Wooders wrote:I was thinking of upgrading to a Dna27

BTW Ben what new diffs are going into your rig

GQ's

Running at full width

hey ben...
what side drop is the GQ front?
and what is the WMS-WMS difference between GQ and TJ?

Thor wrote:hey ben...
what side drop is the GQ front?
and what is the WMS-WMS difference between GQ and TJ?

Centre is on the driver side of the GQ diffs, but they're being swapped over so it's on the right side. It's not a difficult thing to do.

If I remember correctly, GQ diffs are about 1.5" wider each side than D30/44, and GU diffs are another inch or two wider than that again.

nice

Pffhhh and that's full width....Iam waiting to see what 69" looks like
Mind you those nissan diffs have been on my mind for a LONG time...

Wooders wrote:Pffhhh and that's full width....Iam waiting to see what 69" looks like
Mind you those nissan diffs have been on my mind for a LONG time...

SAY WHAT ????

Put Nissan parts on a Jeep ?

Next, you'll be sticking ROCSTA decals on the hood!

Correct me if I am wrong but didn't some come out with nissan engines?

andy_noble wrote:Correct me if I am wrong but didn't some come out with nissan engines?

Not in this Century.