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Hi every one very bad news to report The rta after this month will not allow 4wds to be lifted more than 2 inches over all so you need to get your engeneers cert before the end of may to keep it raised this is not a joke check it out with the Rta they have not advertised this as they want to get big 4wds off the roads so dont get caught out get it done ASAP

or just have a rig that's low and stable

Im still stuffed about the engineer in Hillsborough I was told I should go too, might start a thread...

whell looks like i just wont get the rover engineered

wly81g wrote:Hi every one very bad news to report The rta after this month will not allow 4wds to be lifted more than 2 inches over all so you need to get your engeneers cert before the end of may to keep it raised this is not a joke check it out with the Rta they have not advertised this as they want to get big 4wds off the roads so dont get caught out get it done ASAP

And who exactly told you this?

my mate got called in by the RTA and had to go over the pits and he was told by them there and by the enginneer that hes going to to get the defects and engeneering passed

So, you personally havent been in contact with the rta, your mate has?

So this is just speculation and hersay again?

i have no reason to not to belive him he is one of my best mates and he dont spreed bullshit around

Mate just got his car engineered from QLD to NSW. The engineer told him about the new rules, and one of them was no lift over 2".

Whole new system coming into place.

has been discused here -> http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modules/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=42708&highlight=

In WA we have these regulations, in draft form but they are currently using it. The limit is 2" max lift if you do not want to get engineering and a lane change test done. You can get upto 150mm lift legal as long as you get engineering and a lane change test is done.

The lift can consisit of the sum of tyres, suspension and body lift. So you can have a 4" suspension lift and a 2" body lift, but have to run standard tyres!

I believe this is just the Australia wide rules that people have been talking about for the last 4 years.

It will only effect prople want larger then 6" lifts. But it is going to cost more to get mods legal.

Chris.

cbr wrote:has been discused here -> http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modules/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=42708&highlight=

In WA we have these regulations, in draft form but they are currently using it. The limit is 2" max lift if you do not want to get engineering and a lane change test done. You can get upto 150mm lift legal as long as you get engineering and a lane change test is done.

The lift can consisit of the sum of tyres, suspension and body lift. So you can have a 4" suspension lift and a 2" body lift, but have to run standard tyres!

I believe this is just the Australia wide rules that people have been talking about for the last 4 years.

It will only effect prople want larger then 6" lifts. But it is going to cost more to get mods legal.

Chris.

from my interpretations you are correct, its just standardising rules, and making it clear that 2" is legal with no engineers

the era of lifting big family 4x4 wagons will come to an end.

this will put your snake racings of this world in the red you would think.

bring on the tow rig tech threads/build your own car trailer threads and no rego comps (winch/all terrain/Tuff Truck and Buggy)

This will new ruling will put alot of people out of biz

what if i live in canberra now

but will be moving to NSW in the years to come

After reading these threads i'm starting to second thought my future SAS and V8 etc. Maybe i'll just go back to fast cars.............
I can't see it being worth the effort.

-Nemesis- wrote:After reading these threads i'm starting to second thought my future SAS and V8 etc. Maybe i'll just go back to fast cars.............
I can't see it being worth the effort.

and with all the track closures it makes you think is i worth it

Yep precisely. Even if I had money to waste on a buggy, you'd have to tow it forever to get somewhere decent.

I'll believe it when i am pointed in the direction of and shown the exact documentation stating all these rules exactly and not just hear say. Sounds like scaremongering to me, or at the most what is the maximum allowable as an owner certified modification.

On reading this i just rang my engineer and he confirmed it.

he went to an RTA meeting a couple of weeks ago, and the presented it to them at the meeting, he hasnt recieved the bulletin yet but thinks it will be enforced very shortly.

some of his points from it are.
body lift max of 50mm
any lift max of 150mm
spring overs will not be allowed.
any vehicle produced after 2000 no gain in height at all
plus heaps of other little points.

i have a 4" suspension lift in my Surf, i will need a engineer cert for it now.

i probably will have problems with my cruiser now.

UZJ40 wrote:i have a 4" suspension lift in my Surf, i will need a engineer cert for it now..

You didnt previously?

bogged wrote:

UZJ40 wrote:i have a 4" suspension lift in my Surf, i will need a engineer cert for it now..

You didnt previously?

supposed to

UZJ40 wrote:
some of his points from it are.
body lift max of 50mm
any lift max of 150mm
.

So..... To contradict everything again. A 2" spring and 2" bodly lifted truck prior to 2000 will be legal? Needing engineers?

-Nemesis- wrote:

UZJ40 wrote:
some of his points from it are.
body lift max of 50mm
any lift max of 150mm
.

So..... To contradict everything again. A 2" spring and 2" bodly lifted truck prior to 2000 will be legal? Needing engineers?

If you read it in context, 2" max full stop, but was open to interpretation......now definatly, and 4" susp only def suposed to have engineers cert

Yeah, everything i'd read so far indicated that 2" max all up was legal. But that one above is saying 150mm all up... With the only 2" max being on the body lift.

-Nemesis- wrote:Yeah, everything i'd read so far indicated that 2" max all up was legal. But that one above is saying 150mm all up... With the only 2" max being on the body lift.

That is how I interpret it!!!! not a bad thing, and still have a very capble rig full engineered with those regs, not much different to now, and will make it easier on engineers as it is more or less down the line so less chance of anything coming back to them

the rules, haven't really changed then, just standardisd, like someone said earlier.

So, on my zook, fitted with air springs, I have no bodi-lift, but can have 0" to 12" air lift in 10 seconds. I put the air springs in for the limo comfort, but at any time could raise it 1 foot. So in reality the vehicle has been lowered, showing no suspension lift at all.

Depending what tyres I want to run, I could slam the chassis onto the ground

if you have changed your suspension that much then you need an engineers already, but the fact that you can go to 12inches may not be passed by the engineer, i know in our testing (electrical products to the aus standards), that all normal operation conditions/positons are taken into account.


That also being said, if you fitted a limiting strap that stoped the airbags going over 2 inches, you would probable get it pass, then say you descide to remove it, then your car would no longer be engineered, and again you would be very liable if anything went wrong

So in conclusion, the setup you have and wont to use (In its current form), would not be within the guide lines

ya would they class airbags and hydro as a lift but inspect it at full extention?

I assume if the automotive rules are the same as teh others that they would be inspected in any position that is adjustable by the end user, eg with the air bags at no extension and at full extension, the same would also apply to lockers i would think, they should probably do the lane change test engaged and disengaged. The only thing that may exclude this requirement may be instuction/warnings...

as I said i am not a vechile engineer, but am involved in australian standards tested (the equivelent for electrical products)