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Bought a new Maverick today, a LWB to replace the shorty that I'll now be selling. I just want a bit more space than the SWB offers.

Looks pretty tidy, no signs of abuse.

First up it's going to need a bit of lift to fit the 33" Wrangler MTRs that I have piled up in my backyard. Can anyone recommend a good (ie cheap) source for 2"or 3" shocks and springs plus five 15" x 8" wide offset rims fitted to the wranglers? Melbourne, north is closer but anywhere's okay if they're good.

EOI on the white SWB Mav also welcome, I'll do an ad up next week when I've worked out what I think it owes me

Jason

not sure of were you sould source springs down south there. if you were in queensland i think from memory a mate got dobinon springs and some efs shocks for his patrol for about 500 bucks new. you may be able to frieght it but id say i would be easier to source down there.
ever sonsidered a body lift too? would leave some good room for it to flex up with those 33's. my mate is also running 2 inch coils and body lift and can get 35's under it however when she flexs it scrubs hardcore
just some ideas anyway mate.
matt

I just lifted my mav using 4" dobinsons with OME L series shocks and OME castor bushes.

The front came up nearly 6 inches the old springs had sagged so much!!

Only cost me $760 all up too!!

It rides brilliantly too!

Cossie wrote:I just lifted my mav using 4" dobinsons with OME L series shocks and OME castor bushes.

The front came up nearly 6 inches the old springs had sagged so much!!

Geez you can certainly see a difference, what size tyres are those?

Whereabouts did you get the bits from?

Jason

bought the springs off someone on here (still new in boxes due to change of plans)

and I work for ARB hence why the rest was so cheap!!

Its still on 31's but Ill go to 33's soon, maybe even 35's as theres plenty of room for them!

Being that high should also help to avoid damage to sidesteps like the pic below! (thats what happens on Ellis track on 31" AT's and a very low 4be!!)

sandy has some cheap lift kits on ebay!

I think in dobinson 3" is only available in the softest coil rate. that may be not suitable for your touring (and thus heavy load) plans.

4" is a lot of lift for any vehicle which is mainly gonna be street driven.

Maybe a 2+2?

I may be able to help you.
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Lovells Coils Extra Heavy Duty Front $150 a pair
Lovells Coils Extra Heavy Duty Rear $160 a pair
Dobinsons or EFS shocks $95 each
Oztech shocks made by Cofap (same manufacturer as TJM shocks) $110 each for a limited time and includes lifetime warranty.
Procomp shocks $125 each
Koni $180 each

So $690 all up including delivery.

ps Castor correction bushes are $100 for the set.

Shane
4WD STUFF

pps I can do an Extra heavy duty 3 inch lift for same price.

I have the softest 3in dobinsons in the front of my swb petrol and still way too hard, do yourself a favour and work out the weight of the car, lift required and spring rates you want and go from there-definately worth the extra time rather than just a generic spring 3in lift

I used to have the King springs SP3's (3" 250lbs) but found them to be too soft. Kings dont do different rates in 3"+ range unless a special build. Just got some Dobinsons 3", 275lbs in the front and 300lbs in the rear and rides much better.
Most of the guys in our club use Advantage Suspension.
Ph. 9555 2633
4/1 Winston Court
Moorabbin.

They do very good prices. The Koni shocks and King Springs cost me $1010.00. Some place quoted nearly that just for the Konis....
The Dobbinsons I got new off some one on here and paid $320 for the four which is also very good.

Drives well with the 3" and no castor correction. With the 2" body lift, 3" suspension and the 35's I have more than enough clearance for what I do.

TUFFRANGIE wrote:I have the softest 3in dobinsons in the front of my swb petrol and still way too hard, do yourself a favour and work out the weight of the car, lift required and spring rates you want and go from there-definately worth the extra time rather than just a generic spring 3in lift

Check its not the shocks which make it seem hard - I've got very soft coils on the front but with the OME shocks fitted you'd swear they were super heavy duty coils. Without the shocks fitted I can bottom the suspension by jumping on the bullbar. Most gas shocks are going to be firm.

Am definitly going to get adjustable Konis (hydraulic) next time.............

TUFFRANGIE wrote:I have the softest 3in dobinsons in the front of my swb petrol and still way too hard, do yourself a favour and work out the weight of the car, lift required and spring rates you want and go from there-definately worth the extra time rather than just a generic spring 3in lift

Check its not the shocks which make it seem hard - I've got very soft coils on the front but with the OME shocks fitted you'd swear they were super heavy duty coils. Without the shocks fitted I can bottom the suspension by jumping on the bullbar. Most gas shocks are going to be firm.

Am definitly going to get adjustable Konis (hydraulic) next time.............

I have the softest 3in dobinsons in the front of my swb petrol and still way too hard, do yourself a favour and work out the weight of the car, lift required and spring rates you want and go from there-definately worth the extra time rather than just a generic spring 3in lift

I can get you springs so soft you will be swaying all over the place. Anyway it is very hard to get a comfortable ride out of a SWB patrol. So I sold mine and bought a Range Rover Oops I'm in the wrong section.

So $690 all up including delivery.

ps Castor correction bushes are $100 for the set.

How much to freight to NZ
Heard that the Dobinson springs are good, but cant find them over here, and I want to go from my 2" Tough Dog to a 3" lift.
Any idea on what the ext. and comp. lengths are for the efs or dobinson shocks for a 3" lift?


Dave

Heya Chimpboy On my Mav I went the cheap allround option with King progressive springs just under 50mm lift on new STD's alot on sagged old ones like it had only $150 a pair . I also run 32" Silverstones that measure 790mm big for a 32 and they only touch the bottom of the fiberglass flares under full flex and thats with all 6 of the family in the car. Good on the road and good on the dirt. I even load up the trailer with the Quads on and it sits fine. The progressive springs are a good allround option.
See ya when ya make your way up to the cape.
I'll try and post a pick of what mine looks like.
Paul

Progressive coils work well in cars.
Your progressive coils probably work well because they are not too soft or too hard. This is achieved by how thick the wire is and how many turns in the wire. Not because it is progressive.

I will find out about freight to Kiwiland.

The main thing with coils isn't so much the brand (As long as it is Lovells, Dobinsons or Kings) but what wire thickness and how many turns and that it is suited to your vehicle and the load you plan to carry. You need a very experienced person who understands what you are trying to achieve. (My supplier). If the person you buy your coils off doesn't ask these questions you are taking a gamble.

Good Luck
Shane

4WD Stuff wrote:Progressive coils work well in cars.
Your progressive coils probably work well because they are not too soft or too hard. Shane

YEAP your right they work.
And I'm not trying to sell my old friend anything only telling him what I've done
Maybe you should post on the 4sale section

Maybe you should post on the 4sale section

Sorry if I come across a bit one eyed but I can assure you I am not. My advice may not always be the best but I try. I hope the following ramble doesn't come accross too strong but here goes anyway.

I work full time as a Plasterer/ceiling fixer and very part time selling 4wd stuff. I do not make much money selling 4WD STUFF. If I don't sell one more spring or shock then that would be fine. If I can help out someone with some advice or get them stuff a bit cheaper or a bit better quality than I am a happy man. If I think you can get a better deal elsewhere than I will tell you so and hopefully tell you where to find it.

I am not an expert but I speak to people who are, and I repeat in here what is said if I think it is helpful. What I have posted about progressive coils is what I have been told by those who have sold them in the past.

I havn't posted anything on the 4sale section unless it was 2nd hand, but it is a good idea so I probably will post in there.

I personally have put a pair of progressive coils in my GQ. They didn't work for me for other reasons. I got soft and softer therefore their destiny was to flex well for a while then sag majorly. This is what the guy told me would happen when I bought them from ARB and this is what happened.
The way I see it (not an expert) your progressive coil has 3/4 of it being a stiffer coil and about 1/4 of it with tighter turns to make it softer(could have thinner wire). The 4wd generally sits so the tighter coils are compressed and you get more flex because they stretch out when 4wding. I reckon a permantly compressed coil eventually will lose its recoil.

Or if the tighter coils are not compressed in its normal state when the 4wd is still, then if you load the fourby up, by the time the stiffer coils take up tention you are already sagged 2 inches (No better than the usual soft coil).

Another thought is the tighter the coil(softer) the more it is likely to sag and lose its spring tention

First up it's going to need a bit of lift to fit the 33" Wrangler MTRs that I have piled up in my backyard. Can anyone recommend a good (ie cheap) source for 2"or 3" shocks and springs plus five 15" x 8" wide offset rims fitted to the wranglers? Melbourne, north is closer but anywhere's okay if they're good.

Jason asked a question and I reckon I can help. If nothing else he has a price he can quote when he goes to his local supplier.

Suppliers don't want to sell you soft coils because they are far more likely to sag and you will then want your money back.

Happy wheeling on the weekend

Shane