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I am thinking of fabbing up some half doors.

Just want to know if they are legal or not??

what rig?

i know running no doors on a 40 is legal

just got my half doors passed by an engineer

I think they are fine as long as you have door handles inside and out.
I dont know if side intrusion strength comes into it though .

Its on a hilux.

Might go speak to my engineer then

Depnds on the year - I can run dorrless legally on my 97TJ

you'll be right champ just start cutting im going half doors as well just have to find a couple of MQ doors

bad_religion_au wrote:
i know running no doors on a 40 is legal

It is? how do you know this Adam

Cheers BJ

...cause they came like that as a factory option I am pretty sure.

But I think for it to be 100% legal you have to get the factory model that came like that.

Otherwise it needs to be engineered still.

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/vrpdf/rd ... i%2020.pdf

question 11

my 4x4 has removable doors, can i leave them off while driving?

vicroads strongly reccomends against this practice especially when then vehicle is used onroad, however if seatbelts are fitted the vehicle can be used without doors fitted.

thanks Case

your car isn't legal anyway dan, so just do it

pcman wrote:http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/vrpdf/rdsafe/vsi%2020.pdf

question 11

my 4x4 has removable doors, can i leave them off while driving?

vicroads strongly reccomends against this practice especially when then vehicle is used onroad, however if seatbelts are fitted the vehicle can be used without doors fitted.

All doors are "removable"

dont blame me blame vicroads its in there words exactly

ADR29 does not cover NA category vehicles which are four wheel drive. ADR29 is side door strength so side intrusion bars would not be fitted anyway.

Just check with the local authorities as they may want door handles inside & out. As there wont be any glass you might be able to get away with exteral handles only.

Dave talked to an engineer once up here about half doors and evidently it is ok as long as the vehicle is manufactured before the date that side intrusion bars were made mandatory. The door still needs to have a latch mechanism.

Hybrid wrote:Dave talked to an engineer once up here about half doors and evidently it is ok as long as the vehicle is manufactured before the date that side intrusion bars were made mandatory. The door still needs to have a latch mechanism.

Thats what I said

Hybrid wrote:Dave talked to an engineer once up here about half doors and evidently it is ok as long as the vehicle is manufactured before the date that side intrusion bars were made mandatory. The door still needs to have a latch mechanism.

ok then when were intrusion bars made mandatory??

antt wrote:your car isn't legal anyway dan, so just do it

Yeah just reading that vicroads PDF so many things on my 40 aren't legal either

Dazz

basketcase wrote:

Hybrid wrote:Dave talked to an engineer once up here about half doors and evidently it is ok as long as the vehicle is manufactured before the date that side intrusion bars were made mandatory. The door still needs to have a latch mechanism.

ok then when were intrusion bars made mandatory??

early 90's i think my 89 lux doors didnt have the bars and my 94 model doors have them

spazbot wrote:

basketcase wrote:

Hybrid wrote:Dave talked to an engineer once up here about half doors and evidently it is ok as long as the vehicle is manufactured before the date that side intrusion bars were made mandatory. The door still needs to have a latch mechanism.

ok then when were intrusion bars made mandatory??

early 90's i think my 89 lux doors didnt have the bars and my 94 model doors have them

My 91 model didn't have intrusion bars. Basically the interpretation of the law here is: as long as the door is openable from both inside and outside the vehicle (if you have some type of vinyl window) or from the inside without windows and you use std adr approved latches and hinges you should be fine. Obviously no sharp edges either. It is a question of interpretation as to whether you even need doors to begin with.

Lastly, why are you wasting our/your time here and not just giving Phil a call as I assume he'll be doing your mod plates anyway??

so would one get away with tube doors like this

MY45 wrote:

pcman wrote:http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/vrpdf/rdsafe/vsi%2020.pdf

question 11

my 4x4 has removable doors, can i leave them off while driving?

vicroads strongly reccomends against this practice especially when then vehicle is used onroad, however if seatbelts are fitted the vehicle can be used without doors fitted.

All doors are "removable"

You should be a lawyer Adam

beebee wrote:My 91 model didn't have intrusion bars. Basically the interpretation of the law here is: as long as the door is openable from both inside and outside the vehicle (if you have some type of vinyl window) or from the inside without windows and you use std adr approved latches and hinges you should be fine. Obviously no sharp edges either. It is a question of interpretation as to whether you even need doors to begin with.

Lastly, why are you wasting our/your time here and not just giving Phil a call as I assume he'll be doing your mod plates anyway??

Because I always feel like I am wasting his time

I was going to call him to get final approval once I had researched on here.

spazbot wrote:so would one get away with tube doors like this

doors? where?

antt wrote:

spazbot wrote:so would one get away with tube doors like this

doors? where?

dont know about doors, but i have an intrusion bar now

basketcase wrote:

Hybrid wrote:Dave talked to an engineer once up here about half doors and evidently it is ok as long as the vehicle is manufactured before the date that side intrusion bars were made mandatory. The door still needs to have a latch mechanism.

ok then when were intrusion bars made mandatory??

Read my post, it tells you

ozy1 wrote:

antt wrote:

spazbot wrote:so would one get away with tube doors like this

doors? where?

dont know about doors, but i have an intrusion bar now

Intrusion or extrusion.... LOL

Check out this thread. This guy was making half doors for Patrol. Don't know if he has done any other models.
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... php?t=1010