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Simex Immatation Tread All Opinions Needed
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 12:45 pm
by Mud_5lut
I have found a new bread of tyre at my local 4x4 shop. They are a rip off of the Simex Centipede tyres but they call them selves Silver Stones some of you may have heard of them before they are 35's looks like they will go on 15x8 with ease looks exactly like simex, they are asking $300 each has any one herd of them.
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 12:47 pm
by Tiny
yes, search on here as there was a thread a little while ago
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 1:14 pm
by adam.s
You can get them for $230, probably even cheaper if you look around.
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 1:34 pm
by eliteforce32
Foad are u talking about silverstones or mongrels?
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 1:37 pm
by rOd
Are you sure it wasnt a mongrel on a silverstone carcass???
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 2:59 pm
by PSI250
rOd wrote:Are you sure it wasnt a mongrel on a silverstone carcass???
Mongrels are similar, these silverstones are damn near identical, i think they only come in 16s at the moment too.
AnthonyP had them on his RR i'm pretty sure.
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:47 pm
by TUFFRANGIE
Here is a pic:
I think Brawn in Dandenong have them, Grimace definately had them on his POS
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 4:13 pm
by dieselSWB
YEAH I WAS LOOKING AT EM BUT THEY ONLY COME IN ONE SIZE 35 BY 16
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 6:32 pm
by sierrajim
save some more money and buy the Simex's. I've only had them on my car for a short time but have no complaints at all.
Re: Simex Immatation Tread All Opinions Needed
Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 5:45 pm
by Bingham
Mud_5lut wrote:I have found a new bread of tyre at my local 4x4 shop. They are a rip off of the Simex Centipede tyres but they call them selves Silver Stones some of you may have heard of them before they are 35's looks like they will go on 15x8 with ease looks exactly like simex, they are asking $300 each has any one herd of them.
my opinion is buy cheap and get cheap..... why not buy the genuine article and just suss out a good price from guys like ryan at fourby's marooka........................ mention me
companies that rip of shit like this are clearly behind in the technology and research and therefore this goes hand in hand with the ability to construct a quality tyre................
other tyre may look the same but what about ware? wall thickness/plys rubber composition/ chipping characteristics/ road capabilities/ handling................ blah blah blah....
i have a similar issue in my job where an oposition is selling their prodct of my companies back saying it's as good as but 2/3rd the price........... following testing it was found to be incorrect and infact ours worked up to 500 % better.............
a bit off course but you get my drift.....
mark bingham
Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 11:45 pm
by GRIMACE
excellent in dirt sand and mud...
shit on rock...
no further comment
Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 11:51 pm
by GRIMACE
this is them under my POS b4 i cutthe guards

Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 12:05 pm
by Tim D
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 2:20 pm
by GRIMACE
Thats Them Tim D,
The guys at that stand where good to have a chat with.... I gave them abit of my feedback
For the price I think they are good, but only if you not into rock

Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 8:48 pm
by InSanE
what are the 35's worth in the silverstones?
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 9:20 pm
by bad_religion_au
how bad are these in the rocks?
comparable to bfgoodrich muddies, bfgoodrich all terrains? highway tires?
just wondering as i don't drive rocks that often but they have been known to present themselves
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 9:23 pm
by GRIMACE
my bfg muddies where def better on rocks.
but these eat the muddies in soft dirt and gravel and mud.
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 1:18 am
by bad_religion_au
thanks for the feedback, ive got bfg all terrains now, so these'll probably be an improvement everywhere...
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 9:21 am
by GRIMACE
bad_religion_au wrote:thanks for the feedback, ive got bfg all terrains now, so these'll probably be an improvement everywhere...
well these will def be better than your all terrains but dont get up me about their onroad performance

Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 10:14 am
by bogged
Tim D wrote:I seen these at LCMP at the expo, they look like they have more space between the internal lugs, not shore about the outer ones thow

isnt there such a thing as a Patent anymore? suprised simex havent fried their arse like mickey thompson were supposed to have done with maxxis I think it was?
Re: Simex Immatation Tread All Opinions Needed
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 10:36 am
by 1MadEngineer
Bingham wrote:
companies that rip of shit like this are clearly behind in the technology and research and therefore this goes hand in hand with the ability to construct a quality tyre................
other tyre may look the same but what about ware? wall thickness/plys rubber composition/ chipping characteristics/ road capabilities/ handling................ blah blah blah....
i think if you do your research you will find that the moulds for the ET were purchased from a pommy company nearly 10 years ago and the were previously sold in the UK as an industrial tyre over 15years ago.
I have them (by a different brand) in a pommy mag from 1992 about 8 years before we got them here.
OLD TECHNOLOGY

Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 10:54 am
by bad_religion_au
i wouldn't expect onroad performance to be good with these... don't judge me on my all terrains, they were on the car when i bought it
how streetable would these be, the truck doesn't get driven often except to and from the bush... or are they a second set to bolt on to go play
Re: Simex Immatation Tread All Opinions Needed
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 11:50 am
by TuffRR
1MadEngineer wrote:i think if you do your research you will find that the moulds for the ET were purchased from a pommy company nearly 10 years ago and the were previously sold in the UK as an industrial tyre over 15years ago.
I have them (by a different brand) in a pommy mag from 1992 about 8 years before we got them here.
OLD TECHNOLOGY

I had heard that Chris Hummer had designed them specifically for the Malaysian Rainforest challenge.

Re: Simex Immatation Tread All Opinions Needed
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 2:23 pm
by rOd
TuffRR wrote:I had heard that Chris Hummer had designed them specifically for the Malaysian Rainforest challenge.

Yeah, I remember reading that on the MRC site a few years ago.
Re: Simex Immatation Tread All Opinions Needed
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 6:21 pm
by Bingham
1MadEngineer wrote:Bingham wrote:
companies that rip of shit like this are clearly behind in the technology and research and therefore this goes hand in hand with the ability to construct a quality tyre................
other tyre may look the same but what about ware? wall thickness/plys rubber composition/ chipping characteristics/ road capabilities/ handling................ blah blah blah....
i think if you do your research you will find that the moulds for the ET were purchased from a pommy company nearly 10 years ago and the were previously sold in the UK as an industrial tyre over 15years ago.
I have them (by a different brand) in a pommy mag from 1992 about 8 years before we got them here.
OLD TECHNOLOGY

PURCHASED THE MOULDS.... point 1.........
and if you soley judge a tyre on its looks in terms of technology then my friend then i would be a little concerned..........or is everything else for example time money research that goes into coop tyres say just looks....
you think they research how pretty it is and can they rip it off............
if somewone copies a cooper do you think you will get a km guarantee just because they "LOOK" the same and are $50 cheaper.............

Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 6:49 pm
by GRIMACE
bad_religion_au wrote:how streetable would these be, the truck doesn't get driven often except to and from the bush... or are they a second set to bolt on to go play
d00d i would def have them as a play only set.. I streeted them but fark me in the wet they were dangerous... in the dry they were noisy as all fawk and they wear out and overheat to the shithole at low pressures.

Re: Simex Immatation Tread All Opinions Needed
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 7:39 pm
by Rainbow Warrior
Bingham wrote:Mud_5lut wrote:I have found a new bread of tyre at my local 4x4 shop. They are a rip off of the Simex Centipede tyres but they call them selves Silver Stones some of you may have heard of them before they are 35's looks like they will go on 15x8 with ease looks exactly like simex, they are asking $300 each has any one herd of them.
my opinion is buy cheap and get cheap..... why not buy the genuine article and just suss out a good price from guys like ryan at fourby's marooka........................ mention me
companies that rip of shit like this are clearly behind in the technology and research and therefore this goes hand in hand with the ability to construct a quality tyre................
other tyre may look the same but what about ware? wall thickness/plys rubber composition/ chipping characteristics/ road capabilities/ handling................ blah blah blah....
i have a similar issue in my job where an oposition is selling their prodct of my companies back saying it's as good as but 2/3rd the price........... following testing it was found to be incorrect and infact ours worked up to 500 % better.............
a bit off course but you get my drift.....
mark bingham
Silverstone were making Bar treads & other full on offroad tyres 15 years ago before anybody with 4WD's had heard of Simex.
People raved about how well their 10R M/T's went in the mud until they saw what you could plow through in a stock landy with 7.50x16 bar treads.
Re: Simex Immatation Tread All Opinions Needed
Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 8:38 am
by 1MadEngineer
Bingham wrote:1MadEngineer wrote:Bingham wrote:
companies that rip of shit like this are clearly behind in the technology and research and therefore this goes hand in hand with the ability to construct a quality tyre................
other tyre may look the same but what about ware? wall thickness/plys rubber composition/ chipping characteristics/ road capabilities/ handling................ blah blah blah....
i think if you do your research you will find that the moulds for the ET were purchased from a pommy company nearly 10 years ago and the were previously sold in the UK as an industrial tyre over 15years ago.
I have them (by a different brand) in a pommy mag from 1992 about 8 years before we got them here.
OLD TECHNOLOGY

PURCHASED THE MOULDS.... point 1.........
and if you soley judge a tyre on its looks in terms of technology then my friend then i would be a little concerned..........or is everything else for example time money research that goes into coop tyres say just looks....
you think they research how pretty it is and can they rip it off............
if somewone copies a cooper do you think you will get a km guarantee just because they "LOOK" the same and are $50 cheaper.............

who said i was judging them

i just said they are a remake of another brand. ok the construction is different, i am not commenting on that.
Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 9:53 am
by mudtoy
Having been sponsored by Silverstone for over 5 years now I was dissapointed to see the similarities of their Xtreme but also pleased that they are making an effort to progress. The construction of the tyre is a new design and is only in it's early stages. I have advised Malaysia of a number of possible design changes to help individualise and improve on the appearance and design.
That said, the tyre works extremely well on and off road and the wider spacing between the central fingers means that it cleans alot more efficiently.
I have also had assurance from Malaysia that the design changes from the copied brand are sufficient to satisfy international laws (and I am keeping my fingers crossed).
Re: Simex Immatation Tread All Opinions Needed
Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 10:23 am
by polly
Silverstone were making Bar treads & other full on offroad tyres 15 years ago before anybody with 4WD's had heard of Simex.
People raved about how well their 10R M/T's went in the mud until they saw what you could plow through in a stock landy with 7.50x16 bar treads.
yeah had 7.50 x16 bar treads on my first 4B... series II landy in the early 80's.... and they ROCK
