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I am thinking or selling my hilux and have been offered a 60 series GLX 89 model with 297,000klms on the clock duel fuel 5 speed .
Have used the search function but not much came up .
Would like to get as much info as possible like ,reliabilty of motors and gear boxs and diffs and any common problems people have had with their trucks. Also what sort of fuel ecconomy do people get out of their petrol motors.
Thanks very much
Also before any body tells me to keep my hilux I need the cash .

com-on people 31 people look and nobody can offer any useful info I take it then they are a peice of crap and not worth wasting my time with.

not a toyo person, but a quick search provided this thread that mey be hekpfull

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I have a 1984 HJ60 (diesel). I can't comment on the petrol version except to say that they are thirsty.

They are built tough. Arguably the toughest built land cruiser ever. Mine, with diff locks, is almost unstoppable and I love it. For a cheap, capable and reliable 4wd you really can't go wrong.

Check for rust, that's about the only thing that can kill a 60!

some more assorted on gearboxes, springs, bodylifts etc

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thanks guys I had read all those posts that were listed
Some useful info on mods but not much general info will keep looking thanks again

from what i've seen with the 3F petrol engine isn't promising.
send dumbdunce of the board a PM. he know's heaps about them and will point you in the right direction. what sort of dollars are they asking?

5th gear can wear out and jump out on the 5 speeds

cv's can get weak when you get onto big rubber

diffs may show a little weakness in the pinions if abused (v8, hard takeoffs etc)

their heavy, the engines are thirsty, but reliable

rust is a pain

but nice and solid.

Great car, not as tuff as the 40's but alot more civilised.

Mines A 84 HJ60, my mates is a 83 HJ60. Apart from busting Steering Arms there good trucks. Tuff as nails, comfortable and plenty good enough to sleep in when the missus kicks you out.

PS pumps tend to leak the the main seal, especially with big tyres/low PSI, pinions are weak, but these are all easy(ish) fixes.

What i know about petrols, is there thirsty, most are converted to LPG, i had A 2f in my 45 ute and if it wasnt on gas i wouldnt drive it

IMHO Other then a few niggly problems (the Car is 20 years old) there one of the toughest but civilised trucks to come out,

Leaf Springs - Yep
5 Speed - Yep
Power? - Sort of
Toyota - Of course.

60's are bloody great!!

I've had mine for about 12 years and havent killed it yet!
The old girl has crossed Oz three times (via the Simpson twice), gone from top to bottom about 4 times, numerous club trips (mild to wild), entered in gymkahna's/mudlarks, etc,etc.
With all the kays and rough trips, she's only had regular servicing and the usual minor repairs. Brakes, wheel brgs, seals, 2 radiators, etc.
The standard driveline can cope with a lot of grunt/power. (6.2 V8 for the last 4 yrs)
The petrols are thirsty, but offer loads of power and grunt for a 4 litre six. Extractors and 2.5 exhaust (and a light foot!) help to ease fuel economy.

If I money to burn I'd get another one making it THREE in the driveway!!








and this is not jus the Bundy Bear runnin amok in my noggin.......

i had a quick look at one today on Port Rd:
1982 base model diesel,
manual,
1 owner,
get this - had only done 136,000kms.

price $7999

now im definately interested in getting one.

i also had a look at a late 80s Sahara today, Turbo Diesel, had done over 350kms and they wanted 11,999 but it wasnt in real good condition. they have everything that the 1980s could offer inside them though - very typical 80s Japanese luxury!!!

i had a drive of a diesel today, they arent as bad as people make them out to be, no speed deom, but definately adequate - pick up is better than my v8 rangie!!!!

rust

they rust out in the roof and in the pillars

check for rust, tap along the dges of the roof, look for any small points of rust (rusty ius coming from the inside so is much worse than it looks from the outside).

the 3F is thirsty but youve got gas so not an issue. THink theyve got about 100kW so not a powerhouse but definantly enough power (diesel has 75kw).

gearbox is pretty tough, might be getting a bit stiff in gears at 280k, but they will do 400thousand if not abused, 500+ if treated right.

diffs will doo 500thousand if not abused

transfer has the usual toyota problem, oil moving from transfer to gearbox starving the transfer of oil, easily fixed with return hose. otherwise the transfer is pretty tuff.

gxl is nice. buy it

HJ61 good truck 5 speed 12ht turbo ome springs+airbags on rear

Rust in the roof was only a big problem for the early 60's. After the 'update' (quad h/lights, etc) in 7/87, Toyota fixed the prob.

Sixty wrote:Rust in the roof was only a big problem for the early 60's. After the 'update' (quad h/lights, etc) in 7/87, Toyota fixed the prob.

what did they do to fix the prob? (just out of curiosity)

Another thing that i have heard is that the 60series that have the 2High or Low (cant remember which it was) button on the dash - sometimes this system plays up - someone might be able to confirm this though.

i cant beleive the price of the HJ61 Turbo Diesels - still pretty expensive for a late 80vehicle, almost worth goin for a 80series.

Sixty wrote:Rust in the roof was only a big problem for the early 60's. After the 'update' (quad h/lights, etc) in 7/87, Toyota fixed the prob.

sorry rust in the roof is a problem wven in 89 model cruisers.

rust in the pillars was mostly resolved in the 87 year cruiser, but rust in the roof is still previlent in 88/89 cruisers aswell.

i have seen many 88/89 cruiserxs which are starting to suffer the rust in the roof problems.

I've had my 60 for a year now. It's an 85 HJ60 with 355000 kms. I've serviced it regularly since i got it and it is yet to miss a beat(touchwood). The only thing I've down is busted a c.v joint while offroad I paid $6200 and IMHO is is one tuff truck. Wouldn't mind a 12h-t tho

Shadow wrote:

Sixty wrote:Rust in the roof was only a big problem for the early 60's. After the 'update' (quad h/lights, etc) in 7/87, Toyota fixed the prob.

sorry rust in the roof is a problem wven in 89 model cruisers.

rust in the pillars was mostly resolved in the 87 year cruiser, but rust in the roof is still previlent in 88/89 cruisers aswell.

i have seen many 88/89 cruiserxs which are starting to suffer the rust in the roof problems.

I've seen surface rust on ones with shitty paint jobs, but not the motheaten look of the early 60's. Obviously if the car lives at the beach it might be a different story....

smac - AFAIK they changes the internal shape/way the gutter joined the roof panel.

Sixty wrote:

Shadow wrote:

Sixty wrote:Rust in the roof was only a big problem for the early 60's. After the 'update' (quad h/lights, etc) in 7/87, Toyota fixed the prob.

sorry rust in the roof is a problem wven in 89 model cruisers.

rust in the pillars was mostly resolved in the 87 year cruiser, but rust in the roof is still previlent in 88/89 cruisers aswell.

i have seen many 88/89 cruiserxs which are starting to suffer the rust in the roof problems.

I've seen surface rust on ones with shitty paint jobs, but not the motheaten look of the early 60's. Obviously if the car lives at the beach it might be a different story....

smac - AFAIK they changes the internal shape/way the gutter joined the roof panel.

mine has some rust in the front passengers side of roof (89)

I have also seen an 88 with the some "surface rust" on the back side of the roof, same location you see all the 81's etc bogged. Problem is, its not surface rust, its coming from the inside out, so give it about a year and they will be holes.

88 - 90 cruisers are 3-9 years younger than the 81-85 cruisers we all see bogged up (badly), so you cant compare them side by side, instead, compare what the 86 cruiser looked like 4 years ago.

Yes they still have the problems with rust in the roof, it may be less severe, so maybe toyota did try to avert the problem, but it still exists.

solution?

Get some fisholeen, drop your headliner around the edges (doors etc) and spray a good helping of that over the top of the inner fold of metal..

do this every 6-12months and you wont have a problem again with rust.

Theres a guy on here whos old man did this and it hasnt got a spot of rust anywhere on the roof and its an 84 i think and has been to the beach on a few ocasions, mine has never seen beachwork ever (been in family all its life), and still has rust in the roof.

Can of fisholeen is about 6bucks. Fisholeen doesnt stain like some of the other rust preventatives, might leave a bit of a shadow on the headliner if you get it on it, but some of the others, penetrol etc will stain your headliner badly.

do all 60s have a rear LSD?

smac wrote:do all 60s have a rear LSD?

mine is a 1989 base model and has one, so im thinking yes, althiough they may have changed that after 87?

Shadow wrote:

smac wrote:do all 60s have a rear LSD?

mine is a 1989 base model and has one, so im thinking yes, althiough they may have changed that after 87?

AFAIK they came standard after the 'upgrade'. They are a very weak/poor lsd tho. A mate fitted a heavier spring and a thin shim, works great now!

Mines an 84 and had been resprayed a few years at least before I purchased it, I was on the manta ray barge to fraser talking to a guy working on it, he reckons the metallic blue colour was crap and the paint fell off very quick and other colours did not suffer this same fate.

I have 1 spot of rust in my passenger front pillar, a very small bubble on the bottom of the passenger rear door, and light surface rust on he love taps and scrapes. All this rust was in it when I purchsed it 2 years ago.

Installed an erps in it when I got it, figured if it could help any car it would have to be a 60. Doubt it would help the pillars much but its been 2 years and I cant say its gotten any bigger. I won't be convinced for another couple of years anyway :) It has spent almost a month on fraser this last year already.