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I have been offered an early Hilux with a blown motor at the right price and I am seriously considering buying it to build up a play toy. What I would love is some suggestions on mods. I was thinking about Lock rites F&R, a spring over, extended shackles, dual transfers, bobbed chasis etc, oh and of course a V8 or V6. It wouldnt be a daily driver, but for comp's nite runs etc.


Who has done what, what worked, what sucks, whats legal, whats not.. you know the drill


CONSTRUCTIVE suggestions welcomed


Cheers

Pete

Pesky Pete wrote:I have been offered an early Hilux with a blown motor at the right price and I am seriously considering buying it to build up a play toy. What I would love is some suggestions on mods. I was thinking about Lock rites F&R, a spring over, extended shackles, dual transfers, bobbed chasis etc, oh and of course a V8 or V6. It wouldnt be a daily driver, but for comp's nite runs etc.


Who has done what, what worked, what sucks, whats legal, whats not.. you know the drill


CONSTRUCTIVE suggestions welcomed




Cheers

Pete

i thought all hiluxes where springover

All Luxs are SPOA.

Good start!

My only suggestion, is to NOT buy lock rights!

Weld the rear and with the money you save put in a air locker up front!

Hey Pete!!

Whats with the SIG LINE!!!!!!

I've seen that some where else on here!!!!

Ok here is what I have done to my Lux, I think it works well. The only thing I want to change is the turboed 2.8 to a V8 and maybe a 2nd T case

- Snake Racing tube front bar
- Snake Racing rock sliders
- Snake Racing 40mm motor lift
- Snake Racing high clearance cross member
- Snake Racing T case bash plate
- Snake Racing rear trac bar
- Snake Racing stealth bead locks
- Snake Racing Longfields (CV`s)
- Snake Racing front and rear U bolt flips
- Snake Racing front shock hoops
- Snake Racing X over high steer
- Snake Racing rock rods (steering)
- Snake Racing wheel spacers
- Snake Racing rear 2 inch lift blocks
- Turboed 2.8 diesel
- Front and rear ARB air locks
- 4.88 diff gears
- Rockhopper Transfer case gears
- Warn 9000lb low mount winch
- Custom tray
- Shortened frame rails
- Custom suspension, approx 4 inch lift
- OME shocks
- Custom rear shock mounts
- 2 inch body lift
- Q78 swampers (35.5 x 12.5)
- IPF driving lights
- Rock lights
- UHF
- Pioneer CD player
- Honda bucket seats
- 140 lt Aux fuel tank
- Safari Snorkel
- Custom rear disk breaks
- Front diff moved forward 40mm

Damn anyone would think you were sponsored

LOL POS
If you saw the qtr's on my 80 series you would understand. Actually One side will be sparkling again its in the panel shop today and we get it back tommorrow.

Im interested to know why you say not to go lockrites. I have one in the front of my 80 series and apart from a couple of hairy moments on greasy sideslopes, I havent had too many problems. A couple of times I have had trouble unlocking it but overall I havent had huge problems.

Anyway I would appreciate your thoughts here

Cheers

Pete

Ok here is a list of what mine was before the rebuild.
All this can be done fairly cheap and most have been done either by myself or Bootie Fab Engineering.

93' dual cab,
22R 2.4l with RT142 Corona Fuel injection fitted,
G52 5spd with Advanced Adapters Dual Transfer case conversion fitted,
ARB Air Lockers Both ends,
4.88 Diff Gears,
Snake Racing low profile Crossmember,
Snake Racing Shock Hoops,
51" IFS rear spring fitted in rear, Moves axle back 1.5", Modiofied rates,
48" rear springs fitted up front, Modified rates,
Bootie Fab Droped front Spring Hangers, Down 2" and Forward 2", Front axle total of 5" forward,
Bootie Fab Crossover Steering,
Bootie Fab Rear Traction Bar,
Bootie Fab Rock sliders,
Bobby Long Superaxles(Longfields)
TJM T15 winch bar,
XD9000i Winch with modified motor,
Braced front and rear diff housings,
IFS rear diff housing fitted,
Mitsubishi Pajero rear disks and calipers fitted to rear,
30mm wheel spacers on front,
7" removed from rear of chassie,
Custom alloy tray with bobtailed corners,
38.5/16/15 Baja Claws

Here are a couple of poser pics from just before i totaled it.

Pesky Pete wrote:Who has done what, what worked, what sucks, whats legal, whats not.. you know the drill

Pete

If you want your truck legal then, there's not much point building it to play hard. Tyre size and the lift kit will beat you before you even start. :wink:

okay, point taken, scratch legal

Pesky Pete wrote:okay, point taken, scratch legal

it all depends on what you want to do - my new lux - (bubs round 2) i hope to have completely legal besides the 37s/38s and maybe the extended shackles - but all the spring / shock mounts and cross over i will hope to have engineer approved

no guarantees i will but i will try

Marshy wrote:

Pesky Pete wrote:Who has done what, what worked, what sucks, whats legal, whats not.. you know the drill

Pete

If you want your truck legal then, there's not much point building it to play hard. Tyre size and the lift kit will beat you before you even start. :wink:

dude the only thing that makes mine not legal is the tyres

so wen u look at it if i run 35" pro crap xtrains on 18x8" rims then i can have it completly legal

and i run bout 8 - 10 " of total lift with all customs mounts and bars and ita al fully engineered

I had one of the lokka lock rights (cheap version of the U.S.A lockrite) and found it to harsh on the CV'S and axles!

It also wasn't very strong, i sheared the pins off!

If tight turning ROCKY situations it was quite difficult to turn from time to time, by forcing the turn you can imagine the stress not only on the CV's but also on the steering box, pump and links!

At least with the ARB you can turn it off and turn quite easily!!

The rear axles will easily stand the abuse from the welded diff!!!

I don't know if anyone has covered this but put in DUAL cases rather than reduction gears!

It just gives you more CHOICE!!!!

Oh i also noticed you said comps, night runs etc!!

You will need to have it registered for Night runs, Australian Short course and most othe club events, At the moment the only comp allowing un-registered rigs is XRCC!!!

The easiest way for you would be to do a GOOD engine conversion and all the other thing that can be approved and anything else after that you just run the risk of getting a defect!

Unless you want to trailer it!!!

I had someone tell me once that I should spring-under my Hilux to get more clearance under the diffs. He couldn't be convinced that it just didn't work that way....

Let the project begin . Just bought the car, and pick it up next weekend. (Wheeling at Cruiser Park this weekend, so can do it till enxt weekend). Thanks for all the advice and suggestions, I'm sure there will be a million more.

I have just found out that the motor in it is not blown. In fact it was rebuilt only 10k ago, but has blown a head gasket. could be a number of issues. 18R's are pretty gutless if I recall. Does anyone know any tricks on getting them to pull, or should I stick to the plan and update straight away.

A lso any Ideas on what will go in with minimum bucks, and maximum bang if I go the update path.


Cheers

Peter

Most people i know are staying away from the V6/V8 holden engines as they are too expensive and require a fair amount of work to fit them!

For the same amount of work i am going for a 3.5 rover engine!

They are a lot cheaper and the carbies are great for any angle!

They are light and very strong reliable engines!

Or same thing just slightly BIGGER, the 4.4L!

If you want yo stay toyota i would go the 22R!

but you again pay BIG bucks!

Just another Question, what size tyres are you wanting to run!!!!

POS, I'll probably start with 35's. Most of you guys seem to be running 37's and bigger. I "Might" have my hands on some second hand 35" Pede's.

I will also go for dual transfers alsmost straight up, and this should help, but since the motor transplant should be first up, I want to get it right straight up and hopefully learn from you guys who have done it all before.

I might look around at the Rover stuff. Using the Rover, is there a brake upgrade required as well, and what's the Go Here.

Sorry to pick your brains, but Im getting in before you get sick of my questions ROFLMAO

Cheers

Pete

Well i am only planning my swap to the 3.5 Rover!

I have been putting up with the 3Y until i found out for myself which engine would be better suited for me!

The 3Y has done the job (just) but to be more competitive the V8 is a must!

I am not to worried about a Brake upgrade! I seem to be able to pull up quite easily with 38.5's at the moment, the extra weight of the V8 shouldn't effect it to much!

However if you are keen and want to upgrade the brakes straight away then you can go with the Ventilated disc's of the 95 hilux's (i think thats around the right model) and you can also do a Disc brake conversion for the rear aswell! There are a number of different ways, some people have used Pajero disc and i have seen some us Nissan patrol discs aswell!

Its not hard to do, i have seen a couple done! The biggest issue is that you no longer have a hand brake!

There is a Kit from ALL PRO that bolts to the back of the transfer case and uses a disc brake bolted to the rear out put flange! It apparently works really well but you pay big bucks for something that is pretty simple to make, i just havn't been bothered fiddling around with it!

Probably one of the main things you want to look at is getting yourself a set of LONGFIELD CV's, they are awesome. They use to have a warrenty but that no longer applys. They are expensive but are worth every penny!

Also back on the topics of brakes you can also settle for getting a wide track diff out of a late model ifs 4runner, the drums are slightly bigger, and the track width is 3 inches wider overall!