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hows these re-treads






http://www.bronco4x4.com/broncosport.html

also some interesting ones here
http://www.bronco4x4.com/newsport.html

They always look good in the photo's... Had a look at some motorway jobs(BFG mud rip-offs) at The Tyre Factory, looked great in the catalogue, looked shite in person. the block groupings were not uniform, and the join in the new tread looked dodgy(not perfectly centred) on the few I looked at.

retreads..... hrmmmm

i seem to remember an article in the street machine magazine what.... i think 3 years ago when they tried to do a review on retreads...

they went to heaps of retread manufacturers to ask if they could test a retread on the strip.. and you can guess.... all refused except one who was confident enough and apparently did very well..

so i can pretty much guess that the retread guys dont have enough confidence in their products to even have it tested thoroughly as they KNOW that its going to fail...

I dont think you should reject a tyre on the principal that its a retread. Both the Motorway muds and the mongrals that I have come accross work quiete well and the owners are quite happy with them. The only downside (may also be seen as an upside) is that the side wall being very thick dont bag very well.

there are two different types of retread a tread only(retread) and a whole tyre retread(monoform) the monoforms are a much better tyre

Mmm Retreads

post the other one of mine bj

pcman wrote:post the other one of mine bj

Yeah good point but dont have a pic of the other bulging one

they are out off the pommy book maybe its always soft there if got mongrels and they are the cheapest most aggesive tyre but no tuffer in the sidwall then a good muddie 1 has 2 big ripes in it from last ormeau trip

bj42turbo wrote:Mmm Retreads

patch it up and keep going ya softy...

bronco also have a tyre called anaconda which looks just like a super swamper bogger. comes in 35s too.

Andrew

largesuzy wrote:there are two different types of retread a tread only(retread) and a whole tyre retread(monoform) the monoforms are a much better tyre

Who makes some good monoforms and what are the savings compared to a new tyre of the same type (size/tread)

Mowie wrote:

largesuzy wrote:there are two different types of retread a tread only(retread) and a whole tyre retread(monoform) the monoforms are a much better tyre

Who makes some good monoforms and what are the savings compared to a new tyre of the same type (size/tread)

monoform muddies from motorway, 31" $115.50 fitted and ballenced ea

http://www.motorway-tyres.com.au/p436.htm

ring em up and they will give you a local distributor

I like the look of their Mongrel
http://www.motorway-tyres.com.au/p300.htm#278

But the warining *Not recommended for sustained high speed highway driving* has me worried, might have to buy a second set of rims and run these only when going away for a trip.

I wish their Muddies came in 33"

Mowie wrote:I like the look of their Mongrel
http://www.motorway-tyres.com.au/p300.htm#278

But the warining *Not recommended for sustained high speed highway driving* has me worried, might have to buy a second set of rims and run these only when going away for a trip.

I wish their Muddies came in 33"

from reports I have heard they are not proving very good for biger rigs like patrols, but on a zook etc are brillient. I have being running the muddies on the ute for some time. and havnt got around to getting the 33 MTRs i want, and they era lmost bald now and are good.

have met guys that have done the simpson and the cape on the muddies without puntures. max tyre size is 32"

BTW if you want to look at some, TJM at kings park / blacktown have them in stock (mongrels that is)

retreads work fine as long as the company making them xrays every case before capping them.otherwise their quality could be dubious at best.

I personally would save the couple of extra dollars and buy a new tyre.
Maxxis Buckshots are a great muddie and not much dearer than the Mongrels.

Cheers,
Ryano

Now come in a 33x12.5x15 About $200-220.inc GST.
Not to bad id say.

bj42turbo wrote:Mmm Retreads

That looks more like a case fault ot me not the retread failing ..

The problem is that every case needs to be inspected (x-rayed) to check that there are no internal injuries before it has new rubber layed down on it.

did you take it back to the manufacturer ???


I have had several non retread tyres delaminate at the belting when the were quite new (less that 15,000 k's old)

Ryano wrote:I personally would save the couple of extra dollars and buy a new tyre.
Maxxis Buckshots are a great muddie and not much dearer than the Mongrels.

Cheers,
Ryano

mongrels are more agressive than most muddies right???

cheers
elliot

runnin4life wrote:

Ryano wrote:I personally would save the couple of extra dollars and buy a new tyre.
Maxxis Buckshots are a great muddie and not much dearer than the Mongrels.

Cheers,
Ryano

mongrels are more agressive than most muddies right???

cheers
elliot

yes, similar to pedes

I have been using my Mongrels for over a year and a bit, now.
So far so good, no problems off or on road.
Though a zook is light, and I don't do much high speed anymore, getting too old, my reaction speed is less than the tires

christover

Usual failure of a remould/retread is the carcass. Why not supply your old ones if in good nick? When I was looking for tyres last, the tyre place that does the remoulds in Dandy ( forget the name) said they don't have 33 muds as they can't get good carcasses.

For a Motorway Mongrel Distributor in Bris., Try LJ Tyres, 125??? Robinson Rd Virginia. If you reach Bilsen Rd (the roundabouty) then you have goone too far. And its on your right.

BowTieGQ wrote:Usual failure of a remould/retread is the carcass. Why not supply your old ones if in good nick? When I was looking for tyres last, the tyre place that does the remoulds in Dandy ( forget the name) said they don't have 33 muds as they can't get good carcasses.

I have 275/70/16 monoform muddies for my off road use & asked question re 265/75/16. Carcasses are always stuffed in that & some of the other more common sizes I was told. I personally would only get the remoulds & never the retreads, reason as others have stated.

I find them to be pretty good off road, but as others have said, do not bag very much. Also get out of balance very quickly & can be difficult to balance again. In regard to highway travel Mowie, have used them on the 'black stuff' when travelling to the high country (some 200+ ks) & are fine. What some ppl do not realise is that ALL remoulds/retreads are speed rated to a MAXIMUM of 120KPH only so I never go over 105klm.

Cheers
Allan Mac

frp88 wrote:they are out off the pommy book maybe its always soft there if got mongrels and they are the cheapest most aggesive tyre but no tuffer in the sidwall then a good muddie 1 has 2 big ripes in it from last ormeau trip

well that mongel is dead but if they made them in a 35 i would get them i hope my cheap 2nd hand spare will see the year out so i can get some good rubber

I've got a set of 35x10,5x16 "Fedima Sirocco" remoulds made in Portugal (Extreme Trekker copy) for EUR125 = AUS$205 each. But shipping to Australia should be very expensive!
I think the only disadvantage is that they are VERY HEAVY, although, i've never got a real Simex on my hands to compare.

aye i ran a set of dirt devils, they are same a tsl but harder compound from bronco they were a good tyre not the best on a muddy sidebank tho
ive been looking at the 35inch bogger they look pretty fun

The only difference I can notice at a glance with those Fedimas is the large lugs arent as big, and dont stick out very far, however they seem to look a lot better than our copies, the mongrels. At 2 hunge though, I doubt they would cop the beatings that Simex can take.